bridges Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 I have just read on the Times that the LACS is planning on using drones to monitor hunts in an effort to increase prosecutions. This is an attack on our civil liberties, and I hope the Countryside Alliance take the fight to them over this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 36g #5 would sort them out aint it illegal to film without consent :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridges Posted March 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Hahaha a bit of target practice was what I first thought too. I am pretty sure it is also illegal for civillians to operate drones in the UK? It gets me so wound up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Apparently they do this in America and they just blow them out of the sky. There is a video of it on YouTube somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 It's legal in this country but to have to be visual with the drone. If the person controlling it can not see it then you are in breach of CAA rules. There are other rules but they are easy to comply with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridges Posted March 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Cheers for clearing that up mate, wasn't sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 I would shoot it for worrying animals. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Apparently they do this in America and they just blow them out of the sky. There is a video of it on YouTube somewhere. Yep. Twice I think. But I think they were monitoring pigeon shoots where they shoot birds as they leave the crates, like what used to happen over here before it was replaced with clay pigeon shooting, and there was quite a bit of debate about it when I posted one of the videos of a drone being shot down on this forum. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZgk1cRqAfs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAELplrEYu4 Are LACS just limiting this to hunts or will they also be looking at shoots? I'm wondering how long it would be before I see one. What would happen if you accidentally shot it? Monitoring a pheasant shoot with a drone when people are shooting at things in the sky... could happen. Edited March 16, 2013 by Reece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridges Posted March 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Yeah worried about mission creep from the LACS. They need a rosbust slap down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 http://www.league.org.uk/news/1113/League-takes-to-the-sky-to-catch-wildlife-criminals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stovepipe Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 I think it would be very easy to 'accidently' shoot down one of those drones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 The rules for where you can fly a model plane or helicopter are quite similar to where you can shoot a gun you have to be something like 500yrds from a highway (or something, i forget) and you have to have the land owners permission. They cant just rock up and fly what you want, perhaps this is a good thing so the hunters can get the protesters in trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 alphamax 42g bb ,got lots job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Just seen an interesting 'tongue in cheek' suggestion on twitter about a 'radio jammer'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 is this not why the good lord let us have shotguns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Just seen an interesting 'tongue in cheek' suggestion on twitter about a 'radio jammer'? Sounds good, dont they have to have a pennant on em to signify what frequency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Sounds good, dont they have to have a pennant on em to signify what frequency? old school 27mhz AM CB radio will do the lot no need to know the frequency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Scummy unwashed lefty bunny hugging cowardly oxygen stealing freaks. Not very keen on the Lacs as you may have guessed. What sort of mug donates to a charity run by halfwits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 It takes a real half wit to shoot one of these things down and turn a very minor bit of propaganda into a real honey pot for the anti. If it happens here just use existing laws! Accidental shooting is just about better than intentional shooting as far as they are conserned, think about it! Ooops I accidently plugged a drone! Well that proves to many that we are all gun happy fools who are a likely to shoot a BOP etc as we might a pheasant or duck. Live pigeon shooting from traps should be deplored by all "sportsmen" as they are IMO quite wrongly described by the reporter. What we actually need is more openness in all our field sports and more good practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) It takes a real half wit to shoot one of these things down and turn a very minor bit of propaganda into a real honey pot for the anti. If it happens here just use existing laws! Accidental shooting is just about better than intentional shooting as far as they are conserned, think about it! Ooops I accidently plugged a drone! Well that proves to many that we are all gun happy fools who are a likely to shoot a BOP etc as we might a pheasant or duck. Live pigeon shooting from traps should be deplored by all "sportsmen" as they are IMO quite wrongly described by the reporter. What we actually need is more openness in all our field sports and more good practice. If people are shooting at pheasants in the sky and a drone is somewhere behind the bird, it is entirely possible to shoot one down accidentally. Besides, even if shoots being monitored are using the best practice possible, LACS will still be able to use it. If they put any undercover footage on youtube, especially if the video quality is bad or even if the video is made darker, they can make any shoot look bad, even if best practice is being followed. If people watch undercover, low quality footage, a lot of them will assume something bad is happening just because it is undercover and low quality, if you get what I mean. They posted a video of a shoot a while back as part of their campaign, but what the video showed was a legitimate shoot following the code of good shooting practice vitrually to the letter. But because it was undercover footage, the assumption made by anyone viewing it is that something bad is happening. We should be more open about what we do, but we should be the ones taking charge of that, not LACS. LACS could turn anything into propaganda, whether any malpractice has taken place or not. Edited March 17, 2013 by Reece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilberts1989 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I fly these piecesof **** for a living. I wouldn't worry to much, the chance of them getting decent imagery while in the air is pretty slim. They just get blown about and it just makes your feel sick looking at the screen. Also they don't work in the rain. Good luck to them, it will be funny to see them in court when some one has been hurt from one dropping out the sky. Also I'm pretty sure that there has to be signs up everywhere in the area that they are flying to say that you are being watched. Otherwise it can't be used as evidence in a court of law. Merseyside police had a problem with this a while back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingRebel Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 36g #5 would sort them out aint it illegal to film without consent :lol: No it isn't. But if it was illegal, all the CCTV and speed camera operators in this country would be in big trouble. I suppose flying a drone on somebody's private land without consent could constitute trespass, and it could potentially endanger livestock and any land users, if the latter is the case you might well be justified in shooting the thing down. "Thats right your honour, damn thing was heading straight towards my chickens". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilberts1989 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 No it isn't. But if it was illegal, all the CCTV and speed camera operators in this country would be in big trouble. I suppose flying a drone on somebody's private land without consent could constitute trespass, and it could potentially endanger livestock and any land users, if the latter is the case you might well be justified in shooting the thing down. "Thats right your honour, damn thing was heading straight towards my chickens". Or you could say you thought they were perving on the kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 If people are shooting at pheasants in the sky and a drone is somewhere behind the bird, it is entirely possible to shoot one down accidentally. Besides, even if shoots being monitored are using the best practice possible, LACS will still be able to use it. If they put any undercover footage on youtube, especially if the video quality is bad or even if the video is made darker, they can make any shoot look bad, even if best practice is being followed. If people watch undercover, low quality footage, a lot of them will assume something bad is happening just because it is undercover and low quality, if you get what I mean. They posted a video of a shoot a while back as part of their campaign, but what the video showed was a legitimate shoot following the code of good shooting practice vitrually to the letter. But because it was undercover footage, the assumption made by anyone viewing it is that something bad is happening. We should be more open about what we do, but we should be the ones taking charge of that, not LACS. LACS could turn anything into propaganda, whether any malpractice has taken place or not. What a poor excuse " it was an accident" , "too close to the pheasant" what if it was a rare bird?. I know I hold my fire when I spot a non target bird too close, it wouldn't be the first time I have downed an extra bird or more with one shot or hit a following bird not the intended one. Claiming it was an accident is just about the worse thing you can say - far better to just carry on and let them film Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 I fly these piecesof **** for a living. I wouldn't worry to much, the chance of them getting decent imagery while in the air is pretty slim. They just get blown about and it just makes your feel sick looking at the screen. Also they don't work in the rain. Good luck to them, it will be funny to see them in court when some one has been hurt from one dropping out the sky. Also I'm pretty sure that there has to be signs up everywhere in the area that they are flying to say that you are being watched. Otherwise it can't be used as evidence in a court of law. Merseyside police had a problem with this a while back We are quite safe up here if they don't work in the rain then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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