incomer Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Hello all I have a relative who has a pair of shotguns which were on licence but their licence lapsed over 20 years ago. they moved house and never got round to handing them in. now they want them out of the attic and into safe hands. my RFD will happily add them to his books and transfer them to my SGC in due course. But... I don't want my relative to get into trouble as i know its a serous offence keeping them without a licence all these years. will the police be happy they are accounted for or investigate and prosecute my relative? is there another solution? thanks in advance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Wait until they die and no worries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Say you found them in the attic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 The police will just be happy they are back in the system and its unlikely anything will happen as it highlights issues on their side as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 They can be handed in anonymously to the RFD IIRC, better back on the books than off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiff-TRG Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) This happened very often when I worked for an RFD. Not just shotguns, but rifles and pistols! The police will be happy to have them back on the books with the RFD. It would be highly unlikely they would take it any further since it does not reflect well on them...... The police will run a check on the serial numbers (to check they are not stolen etc.) and then let the RFD transfer them onto your ticket. Edited March 19, 2013 by Tiff-TRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 I had a similar situation with someone. I talked with the FEO and he came and collected them, i signed a form agreeing to their destruction and that was that. Two less off the streets as far as they are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 I had a similar situation with someone. I talked with the FEO and he came and collected them, i signed a form agreeing to their destruction and that was that. Two less off the streets as far as they are concerned. Depends if you want them destroyed or not...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiff-TRG Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) I had a similar situation with someone. I talked with the FEO and he came and collected them, i signed a form agreeing to their destruction and that was that. Two less off the streets as far as they are concerned. DO NOT DO THIS - They are added to the national firearms statistics that are used by anti gun pressure groups and the government itself against legal firearm owners! Hand them into a friendly RFD - even if scrap. The RFD can then destroy them once on their records and they do not therefore count towards police firearms statistics. Edited March 19, 2013 by Tiff-TRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 As others have said,just take them to your local RFD and he will transfer them onto your SGC.There's no reason why the Police should become involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 As others have said,just take them to your local RFD and he will transfer them onto your SGC.There's no reason why the Police should become involved. In my personal experience the RFD has to hold them until the police clear them as not being stolen/used in a crime and they do ask where they came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incomer Posted March 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Thanks for all the responses folks. yeah don't really want them destroyed. want to see what my rfd/gunsmith makes of them first. both are 12b sxs hammer guns one looks complete and seems ok one has a blown barrel. would that make it illegal for RFD to give it back to me because it obviously out of proof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Speak to RFD he can fix it and sell it back or sell you the action and forend without the barrel, I am sure he can come up with a better suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 one has a blown barrel. would that make it illegal for RFD to give it back to me because it obviously out of proof? It is not illegal to own an out of proof gun,and it is not illegal to 'give' away an out of proof gun,but it IS illegal to SELL an out of proof gun.If your dealer writes it on your ticket as 'given' or 'gifted',then it's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Tell your rfd he was in nam and as the syndrome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Thanks for all the responses folks. yeah don't really want them destroyed. want to see what my rfd/gunsmith makes of them first. both are 12b sxs hammer guns one looks complete and seems ok one has a blown barrel. would that make it illegal for RFD to give it back to me because it obviously out of proof? Speak to your force area firearms dept. Other than that, you will get a multitude of different ideas and opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Phone your shooting org or Rfd do not ask the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwizard Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 The one thats out of proof i.e. split barrel , I would seperate this one as its perfectly legal to keep the action and forend without on ticket , barrels could then go for scrap (no use as they are ) the good one however If you are friendly with a rfd have a word firstly without mentioning who owns it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 This realy depends on what they are, if it's a matched pair of something quite nice then surely you'd get the blown barrels re sleeved, so in that case you will want the barrels too. I'm betting they were put away after the barrel blew and the owner questioned the integrity of the second gun? Do you know what make they are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 As people have said above - DO NOT HAND THEM IN TO THE POLICE FOR DESTRUCTION! The best course of action is to give them to an RFD as it is not unlawful for him to take them. He probably won't even contact the police unless he thinks that there is something dodgy about the guns or how you came to have them. If you do hand them to the police then make sure you do so on the basis that they are not to be destroyed or disposed of until you have ascertained what they are. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gozzy Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I would just be frank and honest to fao / licensing , what are they going to do , lock em up and throw the key ? As previously said its guns put back in the system and in safe hands. Surely as licensed people we should be honest ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) As others have said, just speak to your local RFD and he will sort it all out. When my uncle passed on a few years back we found no end of guns, some of which were on his SGC, others were in a shed and off ticket. We had no problems getting them all put onto my SGC. Edited March 20, 2013 by jackinbox99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) http://www.west-midl...sing/faqs-6.asp https://www.google.c...XuV0PnJqpu8Fj5Q What do I do when I find an unlicensed firearm?Act immediately upon locating an unlicensed firearm. Do not leave it in case you forget and are caught with it. It is an absolute offence to posses an unlicensed firearm in any circumstance. However, Home Office guidance says; “No obstacle should be placed in the way of a person who wants to surrender firearms or ammunition to the police”. Equally it recognises disposal through a dealer. Home Office guidance recognises that people will come into possession of guns such as being held “by people in ignorance of their illegality; they may be kept in homes where they have been overlooked or forgotten; or may have come into possession of their present owners through the death of relatives.” In these circumstances use a dealer to protect yourself or contact the local police firearms licensing department for help. When employing a dealer BASC advises to firstly arrange a tacit agreement with a dealer by phone in case you are stopped by police when in transit. A phone call is good evidence to show the police that you are not in possession of an illegal firearm for an illicit purpose. Edited March 20, 2013 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwizard Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) Good advice in the above post . whatever you do, i would ring a shooting organisation first , even if your not a member (if you are I would,nt give details )it will reassure you and give you time to think about your actions . Edited March 21, 2013 by welshwizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incomer Posted April 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 Hello all just a quick update if anybody is interested... took guns in to my local dealer/gunsmith in the end. he gave them check over, told me what he thought of them and their ballpark value. He then signed them onto his book and transferred them to my licence and i sent off the form. all sorted for a very reasonable admin fee. couple of weeks ago now. took one to the clays and had a bit of fun with it. so thanks for all input folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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