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Hi guys

Just been looking on eley hawk website and come across the lighting steel 3" carts. TBH they look really good and write ups seem Prety good

Have any you guys tried these carts if so would you recommend, thinking about buying couple hundred for next season.

I have been using game bore super steel 3" 36g 5s but they dont seem to have allot of punch after 40yds+

Thanks, Kyle

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Hi guys

Just been looking on eley hawk website and come across the lighting steel 3" carts. TBH they look really good and write ups seem Prety good

Have any you guys tried these carts if so would you recommend, thinking about buying couple hundred for next season.

I have been using game bore super steel 3" 36g 5s but they dont seem to have allot of punch after 40yds+

Thanks, Kyle

 

No they wont have switch to 3's minimum. 40yds is pretty much full limits still if you don't want a load of cripples. I find after 40yds even no.3 don't have enough energy and rarely if ever adequately penetrate the breast on say mallard. I should buy a box of 25 first if I were you and test them on paper before birds, fast at the muzzle can mean poor patterns and it don't always mean significantly more energy at 40 yds

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As Kent says go up to a 3 in the Gamebore and they will do you just fine, or if you are shooting at long range Mallard the 3 1/2" Gamebore 1's are awesome. The general rule is go up at least 2 shot sizes in steel, so your steel 5's are in theory the equivalent to lead 7's which just aren't duck loads at anything other than close range.

I have this year used the gamebore 36g 4's over splashes, but this has been at mostly sub 30 yards and on smaller ducks like teal and wigeon, they have done the job nicely but wouldn't want to be shooting Mallard with them regularly at anything more than decoy distance.

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Hi guys

Just been looking on eley hawk website and come across the lighting steel 3" carts. TBH they look really good and write ups seem Prety good

Have any you guys tried these carts if so would you recommend, thinking about buying couple hundred for next season.

I have been using game bore super steel 3" 36g 5s but they dont seem to have allot of punch after 40yds+

Thanks, Kyle

 

5s in steel are not the size for 40yard shots. changing the speed with different shells is going to do nothing. those 5s loose alot of energy. so if they get there on target, they wont do much.

if i were you i`d try different shotsizes shch as 2s, the 36g loads you are using are large enough to have a high shotcount anyway. use 2s for everyday wildfowling.

 

purchase the same shells in BBs as a dedicated goose load. i bet even both 2s and BBs could be used on all game adequetly, without the disadvantage minimal range.

 

yes the 5s are like an equivalent to 7s, but shot at sub 1300fps its like lumping 8s at game.

 

even #2s and #BBs at 1200fps will still do a decent job on normal "non-extreme" targets.

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I am wanting these carts for teal only and don't plan to shoot geese or mallard with them. I have found that the 5s do a good job on the teal as there is more shot.

 

I was wondering if you guys have had any experience with these carts, and not what shot sizes you recommend/use/suggest I use.

 

Thanks, kyle

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Eley Lightning are impossible to get hold of in my area despite visiting 5 gunshops. As others have said go up to 3s even for teal in Gamebore Mammoths 3 inch. a mate has used them and found they wprked pertty well for him. I have used the new Eley steel VIP 32 gr High Performance in 5s and found them quite effective out to 40 yards if you feel the need for a dence pattern. But given the choice I would still go for no 3 shot.

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Eley Lightning are impossible to get hold of in my area despite visiting 5 gunshops. As others have said go up to 3s even for teal in Gamebore Mammoths 3 inch. a mate has used them and found they wprked pertty well for him. I have used the new Eley steel VIP 32 gr High Performance in 5s and found them quite effective out to 40 yards if you feel the need for a dence pattern. But given the choice I would still go for no 3 shot.

Yup. I emailed Eley Hawk about where I can get them in N I. They said that they dont sell any cartridges direct to NI but to somewhere in ROI (where the lead ban has not yet been put in place) Basically I have little to no chance of seeing them any time soon.

 

Sort it out Eley Hawk!

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Ive used those eley fast stuff , they are no better than mammoth just kick more ,still a decent shell but don't get carried away with the hype your not missing out if you can't get them .

Agreed, I much prefer my Remington Steel. The Eleys kick like a mule as well.

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people,

 

all these shells Kick. it is a matter of physics.

if you want shells to go 1600fps. the come with kick.

 

there is no way to reduce the recoil, just due to the severe amount they give.

 

an autoloader or a kickeze or gracoil / recoil management system will reduce the recoil. not every gun has these though.

 

if you want high speed shells, you get high degree of recoil. you can even put the shells through a N/s recorder upon firing, to see the worst offenders.

there is no chance of having super reduced recoil high performance loads.

 

the shell companys greatly exadurate the speed of some shells. only by doing a analytical digest via proofing will you find out that standard weights at high speed recoil.

all high speed loads recoil more than the standard speed equivalents.

 

do not get confused about brandings and products either. there are shells called "super steel" and 1400fps doesnt sound super does it?

the shells labelled "max game steel" dont even list a speed. so cant compare on paper

 

even the hulls labelled solway steel have a rating of firm recoil, 1400fps the same as super steel.

i`m deliberately not labelling brands, but the cip states steel shot should be labelled with "steel" just they put that in a branding format.

 

i think everyone should research there cartridges. its cool.

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Interesting video on You Tube: Feild Testing Steel Shot (1980) by theavgeeks.

 

Good watch and some great shooting.

 

The bits on loads shot size and penetration will be of interest to the reload people.

 

Figgy

 

if thats the tom ambrust video it is exellent. i had a steel reloader adamnt to use small shotsize for geese. i changed his mind and got him to reload 1s as acomptomise from BB.

next season is the testing for him.

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It is a good watch but alot is just plain old BS some of the ranges they claim to be shooting at with 11/8 oz steel in 23/4" shells !! no sorry even on the us forums they just thought it was a joke and I have to say I tend to agree

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The video is of Tom Roster testing the range and lethality of various steel loads for the Game and wildlife Department.

Great watch.

Figgy

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I know Tom Roster and he would take great exception at the suggestion that the film is somehow faked.

 

It just happens that he is an exceptionally good shot and the film proves what a lot of us are discovering with steel, that it works well out to ranges that most people cannot regularly hit birds at and also that for most of us,our range judging ability is really not as good as we think it is. And I happily include myself in that.

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