Thedeerman Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I found out today that the 30-06 I requested has not been approved. The land has been inspected and is apparently only suitable for up to .270, not sure why a 4500 acre block is not suitable for 30-06, but hey ho. Not going to contest thier decision. I wanted 30-06 for stalking and to take on a driven boar hunt in Germany later this year. I know that .270 is boar legal, but has anyone experience in knocking them over with one? Are there any other calibres I should consider up to .270? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 If you are driving you would have trouble taking a 3006 thru France because of a military cal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I was on a driven Boar shoot in France not long ago and one of the team had 2 Boar with his 270 and one of them was the biggest of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay222 Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Seems daft not letting you have the 30 06, lets face it if you can't safely use a .30 there a .270 isn't going to be any safer is it. The logic of licensing depts!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 It is bonkers, if you cant shoot a 30-06 here you shouldnt be able to anywhere!. Im wondering if I would be able to push for a 7mm Rem mag? Does anyone have ballistic/load data for .270 and 7mm RM for comparison and to show the police? I knows they are very similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay222 Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I've got a 7mm rem mag it's got a few hundred ft/lbs more than a .270, my loads are around 3200ft/lb iirc which is similar to a 30 06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I've got a 7mm rem mag it's got a few hundred ft/lbs more than a .270, my loads are around 3200ft/lb iirc which is similar to a 30 06 I didnt realise there was that much between them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay222 Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I didnt realise there was that much between them! Still no real difference safety wise though, what area are you in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Still no real difference safety wise though, what area are you in? The ground is in Nottinghamshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay222 Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 The ground is in Nottinghamshire Should see if you can speak to whoever made that decision, I'm sure they won't have much to back up the decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) What's so wrong with a 270? I Know that in your head that you want an 06 but a 270 has more than enough grunt to do anything that you can shoot here and it can be loaded down low to shoot a 90 grn or a 150 up to the 160 with enough recoil that is enought to be uncomfortable. Edited May 2, 2013 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 What's so wrong with a 270? I need to have a bigger gun than LukePulford! Also, I dont like the idea of it being the legal minimum for boar. Legal minimum doesnt sound big enough to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) I need to have a bigger gun than LukePulford! Also, I dont like the idea of it being the legal minimum for boar. Legal minimum doesnt sound big enough to me! What is that about, there is NO LEGAL minimum for Boar in the UK, if this some foreign thing? Suggested and recommended doesn't = LAW! Edited May 3, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 My FLO seemed happy enough with Boar on a 6.5x55 when i had a chat with him. I've seen enough of the things dropped cleanly with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 I need to have a bigger gun than LukePulford! Everyone should have a bigger something than Luke Pulford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 OP - whether a .270 will be fine for your purposes or not, please contest this decision. How could anyone look at any ground and say "mmm .270 will be okay but not a .30-06". Absolutely crazy and indicative of a decision maker who doesn't have the requisite knowledge to make these sort of judgements. At least ask them to set out their reasons for refusal in writing, they will be obliged to if you ask and it may make them actually think about what they have said. I'm off to sit in a dark room to calm down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 In your situation I`d be phoning BASC (Or joining it if not a member.) This is an unsupportable and idiotic decision which really needs to be contested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) contest it by accepting such a stupid and frankly flawed decision you are allowing the bull to continue a .270 130gr bullet doing 3140fps has 2838ftlbs energy a 30-06 150gr bullet doing 2910fps has less energy at 2820ftlbs!! every load above in 160, 175 and 180gr bullets in 30-06 produces similar ME levels around the 2800-2900 mark whichever way you want to slice it the .270 is NOT an alternative based on their considerations Personally I use a .270 and think it is a better round for my purposes but I specifically asked for a 300Win Mag to enable me to shoot up to 200gr bullets for large stags and boar and take it to France (otherwise I would have asked for a 30-06!) the list of things to counter their decision with is so long I dont even know where to start! by will try: minimum suggested boar calibre - animal welfare ME/MV for .270 to 30-06 justify why a .270 doing 300fps is "safer" - that I would love to hear bullet weight limits for 270 - animal welfare velocity vs energy (3100fps bullets at 130gr do not knock down as well at 180gr bullets at 2800fps - FACT) carcase damage, animal welfare take you pick Edited May 3, 2013 by Bewsher500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 This sort of nonsense enters into conversations, gets repeated ad nauseam and then becomes some sort of 'law' and used by FEOs 'Legal minimum for boar' 'Police approved cabinet' The list goes on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted May 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 contest it by accepting such a stupid and frankly flawed decision you are allowing the bull to continue I have contacted BASC and will let you know the outcome. But going on thier comments, I'm quite hopeful common sence will prevail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 is it notts or leics that have made the decision then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted May 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 is it notts or leics that have made the decision then? Notts have the say as its in thier area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Notts have the say as its in thier area. I would challenge the decision, just seems illogical to me. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 does all seem a tad stupid - good luck getting it sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 from the conversations I have had with my local FEO he says that land checking is all nonsense in his opinion as he could refuse me a calibre on a particular piece of land and then someone with an open ticket can come along and shoot whatever they like on it. so I would contest it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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