steveyg Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Struggling to find a perm however my father has been given access to a small dairy farm with his air rifle. Plenty of bunnies, pigeons and crows about (he seen a couple of foxes as well..) Are the moderated/silenced shotguns any good for pigeons/crows? There are stables close by so my Beretta Auto is a no..no any suggestions/feedback would be gratefully received Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 had a go on my mates 410 moderated mossberg pump. Dead easy to shoot with and pretty quiet, about as noisy as an air rifle i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 this is the place i think that does them http://www.saddleryandgunroom.co.uk/ although they often come up s/hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveyg Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 cheers,having a look on guntrader/gunwatch as well. Whats the killing distance like compared to 12g?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theosmith Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 the people that say they as quiet as an air rifle have some right rubbish airguns as they are far noisier even worse near woods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 I just clay bashed with my mates, didnt think it was that loud tbh, but yes my air rifle is rubbish He uses his for rabbits near a built up area on his farm and it does the job fine. Not sure on distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 tbh if it were me using a modded 410 i would keep my range down to about 20yds or less! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveyg Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 I think a 410 is out the frame then,does anyone rate any 12/20 g silenced/moderated guns? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) Yep just like the .410, single, OU or pump poss a few semi's, question have you tried subsonic carts in your semi? you may be able to get a mod fitted to a spare barrel for the current semi... http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Mossberg_Shotgun-Silenced_For-Sale_130511145643707 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Hushpower_Shotgun-Silenced_Single-Shot_For-Sale_130318170534001 http://www.gunstar.co.uk/Shotgun/Laporte-Pro-2-gun-for-sale-gs124048.aspx http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/hushpower_20_bore_mossberg/ well worth a read.... Edited May 20, 2013 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveyg Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Thanks HDAV ,I will try the bub carts out first and look into a mod/spare barrel..nice one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 You got to use subsonic cartridges to get the best out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveyg Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 bub carts Will try sub carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) you never know bub carts might work well......... http://www.eleyhawkltd.com/cartridge/12-gauge/game/hush-power http://www.sportinggun.co.uk/guns/444790/Cartridges_for_vermin_review.html Saddlery now do a removable 10" Mod for 12 gauges which would be an option on existing gun or spare barrel. Coupled with sub loads might be enough. Edited May 20, 2013 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 the people that say they as quiet as an air rifle have some right rubbish airguns as they are far noisier even worse near woods shooting the mossberg with subsonics, yes it sounds noisy, but get someone else to shoot it, whilst you stand 10ft away, sounds like an air gun, I'll get some footage of mine on thursday tbh if it were me using a modded 410 i would keep my range down to about 20yds or less! they are capable of 30-35yds, its all down to the shooter, remember, a bad workman always blames the tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveyg Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 cheers lads some good tips/advice mums the word. Don't tell the wife..looks like I will be adding more kit to the gun case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 shooting the mossberg with subsonics, yes it sounds noisy, but get someone else to shoot it, whilst you stand 10ft away, sounds like an air gun, I'll get some footage of mine on thursday they are capable of 30-35yds, its all down to the shooter, remember, a bad workman always blames the tools im just stating as a personal preferance as i dont own one or shoot one i cant rely comment on that but from what i hear they dont shoot well at range! (never the gun ,always the shooter) shooting the mossberg with subsonics, yes it sounds noisy, but get someone else to shoot it, whilst you stand 10ft away, sounds like an air gun, I'll get some footage of mine on thursday they are capable of 30-35yds, its all down to the shooter, remember, a bad workman always blames the tools im just stating as a personal preferance as i dont own one or shoot one i cant rely comment on that but from what i hear they dont kill well at range! (never the gun ,always the shooter) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 tbh if it were me using a modded 410 i would keep my range down to about 20yds or less! then you wouldn't be getting the most out of it as they will drop rabbits and pigeon at 30 yards with ease colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 fair enough thanks for the knowledge fella, 410 is not a gun i had or have a use for but if i do get one at somepoint i know now what they can do now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_7 Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 20 bore hushpower good for 50 yards, my keeper used mine to good effect however im good to 40 yards lolol.... like others have said, stick 5s 32's in and as good as the shooter, also it makes more of a crack while holding but in the open at 50 yards its alot quiter than a 12 bore..... i dont use subs as cant really tell the difference but thats just my choice and advice of my keepers on cost etc etc .....i was told that mine with the hushy mod is like having a full choke hence the 50 yard+ range.... also it was patterned so no excuse if i miss its me and not the gun ... good luck on whatever you choose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangled99 Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 I've got the Hushpower 20g O/U and with subsonic carts I don't bother with ear plugs. I shoot next to a horse paddock sometimes and the horses don't mind as they are used to the noise of the bangers that the farmer puts out which are much louder than the gun. I have shot it with mates in the next field who don't notice the bang that much as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lap9387 Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 My mossberg 20g hushpower is quiet with gamebore subsonics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 I do the Rabbit control at two equestrian centers,and a golf course where noise, and overshoot is a problem . I lamp with a Baikal Stealth 410. Fully moderated shotgun. very successfully. Using 2 1/2 inch Eley's is far quieter than the 3" Subsonics, and still knocks them over at 30yds. (air gun level noise) watch the video's on youtube. I use a Tesco "cree" torch (£10.) with a bit of red filter gel on the lens, with the cheap velcro rubber mounts off Ebay, On these lighter evenings, when rabbits can see you coming a mile away , its just the job for taking them "on the run". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 get a 12gauge, reload subsonics. ring roughshooter on here for a reloading package for some subsonics. i`m sure he`ll chuck everything together to get you started ASAP. i prefer 12gauge, because its what i reload for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) I use an air rifle, using a .177, with ideal conditions you can kill rabbits over 40 metres away, easily! That is using a PCP air rifle,with silencer. I shot at 3 equestrian places and have no problems with horses getting scared, in fact they are more interested in what the mobile hedge is doing and trying to eat my camo! As for getting a quiet shot gun, what is the problem, have you got a mole? Edited May 21, 2013 by secretagentmole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveyg Posted May 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Thanks for the input..really appreciated... No moles My Father uses a .22 air rifle and has had a few rabbits, the shotgun is to keep the pigeons/crows off the feed, they are in out so quickly its difficult to get a shot with the air rifle. With the horses in close proximity, I have to be very careful with the noise levels My father would disown me if I lost his perm cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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