Mungler Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 My local gunshop is maybe £5 / thousand more expensive than Just Cartridges. Moreover, there's always a special on on some sort of non branded cartridge that's worth having a look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 haggle and fone around i use four regular places for cartridges and ring for best price and offers.last year sporting supplies bloxwich did a game pack for 40 quid ,got two .this year there charging 55 quid .so i went to mole valley and they did a slab for 44 quid.brand not bothered as long as they go bang and pigeons end up in the freezer.sometimes i hit clays too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peskyfoxs Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) I foiund just carts dear too, local shop for eley first 28g F 7.5 was working out at £3.87 per box on buying 1000, £5.18 for just carts inc post. So if the shop are making a modest profit those selling at £1 more a box are making a reasonable % Edited June 13, 2013 by Peskyfoxs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzurri Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 I live near a town where there are two cartridge manufacturers, one of these manufacturers sells over runs into the trade at cost. This cost price is around £100 per thousand.... I think the British Manufacturers are taking the ****, it's only greed, that's why I buy foreign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted June 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) Obviously, if its such a money grabbing rip off you will be starting your own cartridge manufacturing company to compete with the established players. Suggestions like this strike really show people up to have zero understanding of how the manufacturing business works. its just a thought pal , and how have i showed myself up to have no understanding of the cartridge buisness! Edited June 13, 2013 by fabarm gamma boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) Companies in the UK charge as much as they can get away with, they know that there is never going to be a fuss. Just keep that upper lip stiff and take the shafting comrade. I just continue to buy the cheapest I can get my hands on. Edited June 13, 2013 by Livefast123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) Hmm. I wonder if a company new/existing could develop a value cartridge and base the business model of high sales low margin. Like the leisure industry, this had be thrown into turmoil by budget gyms offering a very low price and delivering excellent value. They now control a high percentage of their market. Easy jet... Primark... All low cost high volume BUT offer excellent value for money versus product. Edited June 13, 2013 by BRNDL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveco36 Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 Just popped in & topped up with 500 Hull superfasts 27g F as I was out near my supplier today and Hull have definitely put their prices up, were £81.00 /500, now just paid £87.00 for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 This thread has resonance with the increase in firearms cert fees - except one is commercial the other not but the principle of 'screw' the shooter is the same - The cheapest cart I could buy at the local shop was Kent velocity fibre 6 's at £140/k. The local countrystore has Eley high pheasant at £7.20 for 25 ! We should all go to one shop if they agree a PW discount - obviously somewhere in the midlands - I could collect some for the other northwest chaps and they could do the same the next time ! I wonder how many the woman on benefits buys on her £38K per annum, more than I can I reckon. Just popped in & topped up with 500 Hull superfasts 27g F as I was out near my supplier today and Hull have definitely put their prices up, were £81.00 /500, now just paid £87.00 for them. Hull have now stopped superfast production apparently as shooters tend to use those rather than the more expensive specialist pigeon and game carts - its all a game to them. Apparently the superfast become available again after the season finishes. Some expletives spring to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexcernui Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 What about PC members clubbing together and buying a large amount from a supplier? Is it an option? Probably not but might be worth looking into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 What about PC members clubbing together and buying a large amount from a supplier? Is it an option? Probably not but might be worth looking into. I've been part of a 'cartridge buying consortium' before. It worked, in the most part. However, we were a close knit group of friends. I think we bought 20k between us. From what i've heard of people trying similar, it all goes great guns until people need to start forking out the cash. In my opinion, it will only work if cash is stumped up first - then stock bought with that. I had a friend that tried, gauged interest with people, did his calculations and deemed it worthwhile. He stumped up the cash, the carts got delivered...and you can guess the rest. I think he's still trying to use them up. The guy that used to facilitate ours had his own business, he bought them direct from Eley (as far as I remember) and had his business name/logo branded on them. He them had this written off as marketing expenses. Not sure the legalities of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 I've been part of a 'cartridge buying consortium' before. It worked, in the most part. However, we were a close knit group of friends. I think we bought 20k between us. From what i've heard of people trying similar, it all goes great guns until people need to start forking out the cash. In my opinion, it will only work if cash is stumped up first - then stock bought with that. I had a friend that tried, gauged interest with people, did his calculations and deemed it worthwhile. He stumped up the cash, the carts got delivered...and you can guess the rest. I think he's still trying to use them up. The guy that used to facilitate ours had his own business, he bought them direct from Eley (as far as I remember) and had his business name/logo branded on them. He them had this written off as marketing expenses. Not sure the legalities of that. yup, this is exactly what happens. someone gets absolutely rodgered. usually peple talk of buying 5k of shells, when they really intend to buy a box of 25 at that rate ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 So how many do you have to buy to get a discount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 If a deal like that goes again with the HERTS/BEDS bunch - I don't mind paying up front if the savings make it worthwhile - and the person taking the money is trustworthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexcernui Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) I would certainly put cash up first, I am looking at buying maybe 2.5 k and don't want to be scalped. Jc do free delivery on large orders so if fairly centrally delivered collection in person might be an option. Edited June 14, 2013 by Rexcernui Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Could collect from Almshoe I think I read before that the minimum wholesale order is 30k or something. So if you can get 6 people to get 5k each or 10 people for 3k each - might be worthwhile. The only issue is getting a consensus on what kind of cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 a bulk buy from JC would seem to obvious first route of approach then get an agreed discount across the board so you got what cartridges you wanted based on spending a fair chunk in one go. The logistics wouldn't be friendly though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Some enterprising RFD's should come up with a co-buy scheme where they say to a club or group - get me an order for 30,000 carts, and i'll give them to you for xxx. Pay up front, collect in 7 days. It's a no-brainer for an RFD - no stock to hold, minimal risk. If you had to do it yourself - aren't there issues with storage of such large quantities of cartridges if you do not have an explosives license? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 choose wisely what you shoot at pigeons any 6, or 71/2 will do the job, cheapest shells near me at the min are the hull superfast at £44 per slab, and for a so called budget shell they are as good as anything you will fire, gone through thousands of them last 2 years, but a few times in that period I have been running low on carts, and an unexpected day on the pigeons comes up ie time of year.. and had loads of eley firsts 7.5s in stock for the clays so ended up shooting them, I have always been in the 6s camp for pigeon shooting and always will be, but the eley firsts are a dam good pigeon cart as a back up, its opened my eyes a little this last few years when I have used 7.5s on pigeon as to how good they are on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexcernui Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Cockets farm are £38 a slab for Kents 7.5 28g. They seem to be the cheapest around me. I got a slab of superfast for 42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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