yas Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Hi, I have permisson to shoot pigeons on a land that is next to a nature reserve, in the evenings a lot of ducks fly over the land where I shoot. I was wondering (before I speak to the farmer) is it ok to shoot those ducks & goose that fly over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobt Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 you wont be popular but yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Oooooooo, can of worms haha!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 I think many wildfowling clubs have exactly this situation. Check you have the full consent of the land / sporting rights owner and use non toxic shot if in England / Wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philm Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 you wont be popular but yes And welcome to PW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yas Posted September 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Thanks people for the quick responce!!! I thought as much, but just wanted confirmation. Legal issues noted. and thanks for the welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 I think many wildfowling clubs have exactly this situation. Check you have the full consent of the land / sporting rights owner and use non toxic shot if in England / Wales Titchwell springs to mind. Didn't the rspb aquire the land from the wildfowlers And yes should imagine you would be ok. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 My mates shoot next to one with no problems ha lol I used to have perm on a rookery owned by my landlord at work but he gave me shooting rights on the rooks even tho the rspb rented the land lol . It's all stopped now but was funny while it lasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossEM Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 I used to have some shooting on land bordering an RSPB reserve near Tring, Hertfordshire. On one particular day I was pigeon shooting and within half an hour of me setting up, the RSPB Warden had strolled over and claimed shot was landing on the footpath bordering the reserve - even though I was shooting in literally the opposite direction to it, and the reserve was over 500 yards away from where I was set up. I gave the Warden the benefit of the doubt anyway, apologised for the disturbance but reminded him I was carrying out legal pest control on behalf of the farmer (who was combining in the next field over.) I carried on shooting, but after about half an hour I saw the warden walking over towards the combine, stopping it, having a five minute conversation with the farmer and walking back to the reserve. I then received a phone call from the farmer and was told to leave. The RSPB warden had told him I'd been shooting towards the footpath around the reserve! I told him it was ******** but he'd been interrupted and that was enough. It still really angers me that the farmer's reaction was to boot me off - the Warden clearly lied about what I was doing, and I was I would've told him where to get off! The worst thing about losing this permission is that I was not shooting in an unsafe way or doing anything wrong, and had permission to be there. These fields are hammered by canadas, greylags, mallard and wigeon in the winter and would've been amazing flighting, but due to the actions of one dishonest RSPB employee I lost it! So make sure you have the farmer's permission to shoot them first - as for the RSPB, well, **** 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 i certainly would suggest shooting ducks with nontoxic or steel shot. if they call the police, they have no reason to stop you shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 RSPB, well, **** 'em I would disagree they do a important protecting wildlife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superspark Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Well while on the game reserve you cant touch them. When in the air over land you have the sporting rights and provided you are using non toxic shot then their fair game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I would disagree they do a important protecting wildlife. You must be joking. The RSPB is one of the most twisted organisations known to man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul2012 Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I have a perm next to a reserve and only shoot them if i fancy duck for tea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) You must be joking. The RSPB is one of the most twisted organisations known to man In what way. ? Edited September 20, 2013 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossEM Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I would disagree they do a important protecting wildlife. I don't doubt that. They also do a good job of undermining safe and legal shooting, as they did with me. My point was that it's perfectly fine to shoot next to one of their reserves - just make sure the landowner is firmly on your side! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I don't doubt that. They also do a good job of undermining safe and legal shooting, as they did with me. My point was that it's perfectly fine to shoot next to one of their reserves - just make sure the landowner is firmly on your side! It's hardly surprising if someone is shooting birds going into one of their reserves they might not be happy with that, even if its done legally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmyman Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I have a similar scenario with one of my permissions. Virtually all of the land can be seen from the 'birdwatching' hides sited on an adjacent N/R, though I'm doing nothing wrong, knowing that there's probably at least one pair of binochs trained on my every move makes me feel very self-concious and certainly takes the 'edge' of a day spent shooting there! Regards Remmyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossEM Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 It's hardly surprising if someone is shooting birds going into one of their reserves they might not be happy with that, even if its done legally. If it was a case of slaughtering hundreds of duck I could understand, otherwise I don't agree. The birds do not belong to the RSPB and they have no grounds for complaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I would disagree they do a important protecting wildlife. ******** only when it suits them or their own agenda. Plenty about them having licences issued to controll other birds from eating eggs and chicks of species they like. Totally biased organisation that should stick to its charter. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yas Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) Update.... Spoke to the farmer and he said that he does not want me to shoot duck. The reason being is the nature reserve have already started to complain and have gone to the extent of getting the police involved. According to them I have been shooting protected species. Any how, the farmer trusts me and to told them to politely to P**S off! But he doesn't want to escalate the situation even though he understands that it is not illigal. I Don't blame him, I would've loved to have been able to shoot duck but the fact that he took my side and never even questioned me on the subject meant a lot more. I don't understand why birdwatchers would have such a big problem with people of our disposition, because at the end of the day we are both watching birds, the only difference is they use a pencil to mark their scores. LOL. Edited September 23, 2013 by yas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Update.... Spoke to the farmer and he said that he does not want me to shoot duck. The reason being is the nature reserve have already started to complain and have gone to the extent of getting the police involved. According to them I have been shooting protected species. Any how, the farmer trusts me and to told them to politely to P**S off! But he doesn't want to escalate the situation even though he understands that it is not illigal. I Don't blame him, I would've loved to have been able to shoot duck but the fact that he took my side and never even questioned me on the subject meant a lot more. I don't understand why birdwatchers would have such a big problem with people of our disposition, because at the end of the day we are both watching birds, the only difference is they use a pencil to mark their scores. LOL. Glad the outcome wasn't to bad for ya mate, Not all bird watchers are antis tree huggers pal. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Update.... Spoke to the farmer and he said that he does not want me to shoot duck. The reason being is the nature reserve have already started to complain and have gone to the extent of getting the police involved. According to them I have been shooting protected species. Any how, the farmer trusts me and to told them to politely to P**S off! But he doesn't want to escalate the situation even though he understands that it is not illigal. I Don't blame him, I would've loved to have been able to shoot duck but the fact that he took my side and never even questioned me on the subject meant a lot more. I don't understand why birdwatchers would have such a big problem with people of our disposition, because at the end of the day we are both watching birds, the only difference is they use a pencil to mark their scores. LOL. ? i`m sure they say that all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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