team tractor Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 I can't remember his name that rang me sorry but he basically said if I loose my guns and want to appeal it would cost me.:( Nothing against you David but I was attacked then looked at loosing my guns with no back up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 No problem its just the last time we 'spoke' on this last week you said "thanks for the help the guy from BASC know his stuff' - if you has told me then you were not happy or wanted more help I would have done something about it. True enough if you get charged with a public order offence, or assault for example there is a good chance you will get revoked, and unless the conviction is quashed then the chances are an appeal would fail.If you want to appeal and if you want to engage a barrister it will cost. Cases where a member has been convicted of a criminal offence for example are not ones we would look to fund. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 I wouldn't go down that road, the old bill might want revenge and watch you like a hawk! I'd say the opposite, they know this guy won't sit down and take it, I bet a lot of red faces and bollokings going on at the moment they lost a lot of money. They won't take any action against this guy now unless its 100% and I bet it would have to be okd by senior management cos of what's happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 No problem its just the last time we 'spoke' on this last week you said "thanks for the help the guy from BASC know his stuff' - if you has told me then you were not happy or wanted more help I would have done something about it. True enough if you get charged with a public order offence, or assault for example there is a good chance you will get revoked, and unless the conviction is quashed then the chances are an appeal would fail.If you want to appeal and if you want to engage a barrister it will cost. Cases where a member has been convicted of a criminal offence for example are not ones we would look to fund. David His advice basically was to let it go :( He knew his stuff but I was gutted to be told I'd have to fund myself if I loose my fac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 (edited) I think his advice was sound don't you? It would have been irresponsible for us to recommend you risk a criminal conviction and consequential revocation. As I have said before, if a member is convicted of a criminal offence, and this leads to revocation, there is nothing we can do, and any appeal is almost bound to fail and we would not be prepared to spend members money on an appeal against a revocation in such a case. my colleague was evidently making that point. In the case in point of this thread, the chap was blatantly wronged by the police and could prove it - so his appeal was almost bound to win, as the decision the police made was based on wrong evidence. He evidently represented himself well in court, was clear with his evidence, and kept his cool. Well done, a lesson for all. David Edited September 8, 2013 by David BASC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 mabey basc could do a little peace in there magazine about my story and go trough my paper work and then put in that if was with basc how they could of helped me out with advised and that kind off stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Nice one enjoy your shooting. Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 mabey basc could do a little peace in there magazine about my story and go trough my paper work and then put in that if was with basc how they could of helped me out with advised and that kind off stuff I dont think they will be taking you up on this offer. From what appears on another thread they probably would not have supported your case. I do however think your experience and fortitude would be of value to everyone and if you can find a 'forum' it would benefit lots of people. Maybe 'sporting gun', 'sporting rifle', would print your story - its no good wondering how to behave after it happens to you, your experience is a valuable starting point for others and a lesson in fighting for your rights. Again - very well done ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 yes maybe it might be worth contacting one off the shooting magazines and see if they could publish something i have got the attitude never give up how though its going to get that's what made out country grate many years ago and after all i know i was innocent and had nothing to hide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostrea Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Well done for your determination and perseverance, I represented my daughter in an employment tribunal not so long ago after Citizand advice and others said she did not have a chance I said they where wrong and we won. Unbelievable amount of work so I would hate to think how much paper work and studying you had to go through for your case but there is no better feeling of satisfaction when everyone says you have no chance and you prove them wrong and did it all yourself. Enjoy your shooting and hope that the police compensate you for all the time you have had to put in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Congratulations and really well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister22 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 when are your guns coming home have you got a date good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ging125 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 i was told my sgc would turn up by mid this week not here yet but if not here by Friday i will be sending a letter in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 i was told my sgc would turn up by mid this week not here yet but if not here by Friday i will be sending a letter in Ring them up and say you'll collect it. The firearms licensing team are at the old goverment research labs at Monks Wood near Huntingdon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiedenny Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 well done !! If your ever in east sussex you have an open invite... If you are interested in contacting some press and sharing your knowledge but don't want the work (you clearly have enough talent to do it) just give me a shout. I have done a a little PR in my time ;-). Finally thank you for everything you did; it was for all of us not just you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) my sgc turned up at 3pm well done !! If your ever in east sussex you have an open invite... If you are interested in contacting some press and sharing your knowledge but don't want the work (you clearly have enough talent to do it) just give me a shout. I have done a a little PR in my time ;-). Finally thank you for everything you did; it was for all of us not just you. thanks may give you a little shout soon to everyone else i have received my sgc at 3pm and at 5 i was in the gun shop picking up my guns that been in storage Edited September 11, 2013 by littlerob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 my sgc turned up at 3pm thanks my give you a little shout soon to everyone else i have received my sgc at 3pm and at 5 i was in the gun shop picking up my guns that been in storage Well done ,happy shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Fantastic news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 great news, very pleased for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simjakcal Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 great stuff and good on you as said not only have you stood proud for yourself but this goes out for the whole shooting community Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Well done for sticking it out and now enjoy your shooting. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 You should hand deliver the bill for RFD storage tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Sweet well done ur a star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted September 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 rfd storage have cost me 400 + vat i have sent the pill that i have paid to release my guns into them this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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