11josh112 Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 My guns 12bore with 2 3/4(70mm) chambers and needing to order some cartidges and having got much exsperience in which are best, all i know is i want a few boxes of Number 5 and Number 7 1/2, Looking at brands such as Eley, hull and gamebore. If you could give me some good names that would be great thanks(Lower the price the better too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) any of them is good, don't worry too much about which if you only want a couple of boxes then just buy whats in stock at local dealer (what are they for anyway?) Fiocchi are another good brand as are Express Edited January 2, 2014 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11josh112 Posted January 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Ok thanks and 7 1/2 for clays and 5's for pigeons, i'm using hull superfast and high imperal at the moment but would like a change, the Gamebore velocity seem good for clays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Gamebore Velocity 28 grams no 7,5 for clays (just got delivery of 4 slabs today, £170/1000 fibre wad) Gamebore Clear Pigeon 32 grams no 6 for pigeons Edited January 2, 2014 by shootgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) You don't say what you will be using them for (edit - posts crossed, but advice stands good I think!) , but from the shot sizes mentioned I guess some game (No 5) and some clays (No 7.5). All makes you have mentioned are fine. I would choose 28 gramme or lower for the 7.5s for clays - even 21 gramme if you have a light gun. I would choose 28 or 30 gramme for game - and I always use felt wads (and I think many estates request/require this) for game. I personally also use felt wads for clays, but can also see the case for plastic. Remember also that for 2 3/4 chambers, you can use shorter, so 65mm, 67.5mm and 70mm are all OK. My own present 'stock' is Hull Comp X 21g felt 7.5 for clays (not expensive) and Hull Imperial Game 26 g or 28 g 5 or 6 felt for game - all used in a lightish s/s either Spanish or English so I always buy 2 1/2 compatible cartridges Edited January 2, 2014 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooterluke Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Get a cartridge what suits your pocket an a cartridge what you can get all the time an stick with them get used to shooting them forget about expensive names every cartridge pointed in the right place will kill anything your shooting at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11josh112 Posted January 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Gamebore Velocity 28 grams no 7,5 for clays (just got delivery of 4 slabs today, £170/1000 fibre wad) Gamebore Clear Pigeon 32 grams no 6 for pigeons Thanks! Edited January 2, 2014 by 11josh112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Clays - Hull Comp X 21g Game - Eley VIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooterluke Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Lyvale english sporter ,hull super fasts , comp x , gamebore velocity all good cartridges as for 5s i dont no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 R.C. sipes for game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 thinking of buying some superfast to try, have a couple of slabs of gamebore to get through first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 My guns 12bore with 2 3/4(70mm) chambers and needing to order some cartidges and having got much exsperience in which are best, all i know is i want a few boxes of Number 5 and Number 7 1/2, Looking at brands such as Eley, hull and gamebore. If you could give me some good names that would be great thanks(Lower the price the better too) Don't take this the wrong way but you sound as if you're quite new to shotgun shooting? In which case buy the cheapest you can...even the cheapest cartridge will outperform you (in fact will probably outperform the vast majority of shooters!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Don't worry too much about the name - just don't buy too cheap. I've tried every type out there and aside from excessive recoil from one or two I find if it goes bang and I've pointed gun in the right direction something will fall out of the sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Gamebore Velocity 28 grams no 7,5 for clays (just got delivery of 4 slabs today, £170/1000 fibre wad) Gamebore Clear Pigeon 32 grams no 6 for pigeons Exactly my choice on both - great value for money and do exactly what I need them to do plus pretty clean through my guns. ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 pretty clean through my guns. Yep, i was surprised too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11josh112 Posted January 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Don't take this the wrong way but you sound as if you're quite new to shotgun shooting?/quote] Yes i'am haha, just bought first shotgun few days ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Just go to local and ask for 32g no5's and 28g no7.5's and take what he's got on the shelf if they kick a bit just remember the name and ask for a different brand next time, you'll soon find a brand you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_gsxr1000 Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 English supporters are good at £40 a slab if you buy 1000 good for clays and cheap as for game, you can't go wrong with gamebore black gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Don't take this the wrong way but you sound as if you're quite new to shotgun shooting? In which case buy the cheapest you can...even the cheapest cartridge will outperform you (in fact will probably outperform the vast majority of shooters!). They might outperform him but they'll still feel awful. I made the mistake of thinking I'd be practical and just buying "whatever was cheapest on the shelf at the time" and had to work my way through 250 of the worst cartridges I've ever had. Nothing wrong with the accuracy but they kicked like hell, that was 250 miserable shots, I couldn't wait to use them up. This stuff about buying "whatever is on the shelf" is a terrible cliché, it means the gunshop will give you the crappest cartridges they have left that no one else wants to buy. If they happen to be English Sporters then you're in for a sore shoulder. I think it pays to stick to something well recommended if you're new, something like Hull Comp X 21g, nice and light and no recoil to speak of. 1000 of those will see you right until you're ready to start experimenting with different shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 English supporters are good at £40 a slab if you buy 1000 I like that lol...... £40 a slab isn't particularly cheap for that money I can have eley firsts, Olympics, or hull superfast..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 They might outperform him but they'll still feel awful. I made the mistake of thinking I'd be practical and just buying "whatever was cheapest on the shelf at the time" and had to work my way through 250 of the worst cartridges I've ever had. Nothing wrong with the accuracy but they kicked like hell, that was 250 miserable shots, I couldn't wait to use them up. This stuff about buying "whatever is on the shelf" is a terrible cliché, it means the gunshop will give you the crappest cartridges they have left that no one else wants to buy. If they happen to be English Sporters then you're in for a sore shoulder. I think it pays to stick to something well recommended if you're new, something like Hull Comp X 21g, nice and light and no recoil to speak of. 1000 of those will see you right until you're ready to start experimenting with different shells. A friend of mine had some 'unknown' cartridges sourced (cheap) for him by his brother. They were exactly as described above - and left the gun filthy as well. Go for a reputable make (any of those well known mentioned in this thread) - and try some 21gramme for clays - both cheaper and many people find pleasanter to use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear68 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Gamebore Black Gold fibre in 32gms 5 shot are what I use for pretty much all game shooting in my 12 bore; plenty of others to choose from, but these have always performed well for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Kent velocity 28g 7.5 use them for clays and decoying £160 a thousand good carts for the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Whenever i go in for clay loads, i buy whatever is at £40 a slab or less. Currently cheddite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 They might outperform him but they'll still feel awful. I made the mistake of thinking I'd be practical and just buying "whatever was cheapest on the shelf at the time" and had to work my way through 250 of the worst cartridges I've ever had. Nothing wrong with the accuracy but they kicked like hell, that was 250 miserable shots, I couldn't wait to use them up. This stuff about buying "whatever is on the shelf" is a terrible cliché, it means the gunshop will give you the crappest cartridges they have left that no one else wants to buy. If they happen to be English Sporters then you're in for a sore shoulder. I think it pays to stick to something well recommended if you're new, something like Hull Comp X 21g, nice and light and no recoil to speak of. 1000 of those will see you right until you're ready to start experimenting with different shells. How do you know they'll feel awful? Felt recoil differs depending on the shooter. I've used hundreds of English Sporters on clays and pigeons...never felt any discomfort. Even using heavy 3" and 3 1/2" 'fowling loads I've never had a problem. Most recoil problems are due to poor gun fit and mount rather than the cartridge in my opinion. I don't doubt the 21g cartridges are 'light' but personally I prefer to sling a bit more lead at the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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