bostonmick Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Completely understand what your saying but I like the 3 year warranty you get and the fact it's new to be honest I got a three year warranty with the beretta.i know a lot of people with old semi's of most makes beretta browning Remington.and none of them have any real problem with any of them.nothing more frustrating than a gun that don't do what it says on the tin when out.a ten year old beretta will be 100% reliable.no need for warranty.but whatever you decide good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 to be honest I got a three year warranty with the beretta.i know a lot of people with old semi's of most makes beretta browning Remington.and none of them have any real problem with any of them.nothing more frustrating than a gun that don't do what it says on the tin when out.a ten year old beretta will be 100% reliable.no need for warranty.but whatever you decide good luck ....and new Berettas have had 10 year warranty for many years now! Not sure, but does the warranty transfer to the new owner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 ....and new Berettas have had 10 year warranty for many years now! Not sure, but does the warranty transfer to the new owner? the warranty goes over to the new owner fully transferable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 the warranty goes over to the new owner fully transferable. Not that many will need it in the 10 years it runs in comparison with the worn out path to the dealer during the 3 year warranty of a Hatsan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I carnt believe that people still buy these guns . Harnser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I know many of you can't believe people still buy Hatsans, but, some of us have Hatsans that work perfectly reliably and have done so for a while. I had a small issue of blocked gas ports when I bought it, but since then it's been spot on, both in the hide and on the marsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I know many of you can't believe people still buy Hatsans, but, some of us have Hatsans that work perfectly reliably and have done so for a while. I had a small issue of blocked gas ports when I bought it, but since then it's been spot on, both in the hide and on the marsh. I suppose the odd good one must slip through.but in the main they are rubbish.the turks should stick at what they are good at (kebabs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I suppose the odd good one must slip through.but in the main they are rubbish.the turks should stick at what they are good at (kebabs) To be fair an awful lot of half decent shotguns are made in Turkey, unfortunately it would be a stretch of the imagination to suggest the Hatsan Semis come under that heading! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Winchester SX3 made in Turkey, very very good semi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) well documented that lot of issues are down to the owners ,wrong cartridge choice lack of cleaning.. 70mm length minimum heavier load the better. i bought a used 20g hatsan youth for me son think its a lovely little gun for the money. no cycle issues so far on 70mm 28gram loads you can get parts failing on any gun regardless of price. my shooting partner bought new Hatsan 3" few months ago,last weekend he had a missfire, all it wanted was a quick clean and was fine. think its a cracking rough shoot gun for the money, its certainly dropped some birds this season. Edited January 16, 2014 by Remimax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) well documented that lot of issues are down to the owners ,wrong cartridge choice lack of cleaning.. 70mm length minimum heavier load the better. i bought a used 20g hatsan youth for me son think its a lovely little gun for the money. no cycle issues so far on 70mm 28gram loads you can get parts failing on any gun regardless of price. my shooting partner bought new Hatsan few months ago,last weekend he had a missfire all it wanted was a quick clean and was fine. think its a cracking rough shoot gun for the money its certainly dropped some birds this season. You mean the reason the Hatsan will not cycle short or lighter cartridges is due to the fact that owners don't read the manual?! Edited January 16, 2014 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) You mean the reason the Hatsan will not cycle short or lighter cartridges is due to the fact that owners don't read the manual?! could be............................. Edited January 16, 2014 by Remimax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Winchester SX3 made in Turkey, very very good semi made in turkey but not to Turkish spec it is like browning and Japanese miroku they use the materials they are told to and how they are told so a world of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyNCC Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I got sold 250 67mm 28g the same day I bought the gun Damn gun shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_gsxr1000 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 My escort dosent like 2 1/2" cartrages but is fine with 2 3/4" and above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 no one has asked what size chamber is it 3" or 3.5" ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hatsans aren`t the only autos that jam, and for the same reasons, people don't read the recommendations, some buy a 3.5" model then take it down to the clay ground and try and put 28grm rounds thro it. or they try 65mm short cartridges when the manufacturer recommends nothing less than 70mm. http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/262257-browning-maxus-jamming/?hl=+browning +auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safc1973 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I have had a 3" rem 11-87 and a 3 1/2" Xtrema both cycled 65, through to magnums with very few problems (about 2-3 in 10 000 or more) My AL391 also has had no problems cycling 65mm cartridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hatsans aren`t the only autos that jam, and for the same reasons, people don't read the recommendations, some buy a 3.5" model then take it down to the clay ground and try and put 28grm rounds thro it. or they try 65mm short cartridges when the manufacturer recommends nothing less than 70mm. http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/262257-browning-maxus-jamming/?hl=+browning +auto Some buy a gun designed to use all cartridges no matter what their length or the chamber, caveat emptor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Hatsans aren`t the only autos that jam, and for the same reasons, people don't read the recommendations, some buy a 3.5" model then take it down to the clay ground and try and put 28grm rounds thro it. or they try 65mm short cartridges when the manufacturer recommends nothing less than 70mm. http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/262257-browning-maxus-jamming/?hl=+browning +auto I dare say you are correct and hatsans are not the only auto to jam.but they do it so much better and far more often than the others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I dare say you are correct and hatsans are not the only auto to jam.but they do it so much better and far more often than the others I think that is well expressed, and I'm not trying to be funny! Any and every semi can/will jam, but a quick search through the history here will show far more Hatsan problem threads than probably every other manufacturer/gun added together! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger got stichs Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 could that be because there the most popular semi auto owned by pw members? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 could that be because there the most popular semi auto owned by pw members? I doubt it, they have only been around a few years, but even if they are, add up EVERY other make/model of shotgun you can find and the total problems are still likely to be less than Hatsan alone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 could that be because there the most popular semi auto owned by pw members? I bet the pigeons are happy about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safc1973 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I bet the pigeons are happy about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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