ferguson_tom Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Some things are worth checking before you buy. Put your hand on the engine block and make sure it's stone cold before the seller starts it, this will tell you if it will start for you on a winters morning. Check the tyres, they're very expensive to replace, some cracking on the sides of old tyres isn't then end of the world, but knock the seller down anyway, make sure the rears have lots of tread and the fronts have sharp edges to the tread. Have a look at the tyre tracks to see if it's been recently moved, if not, look for oil / fluid leaks underneath. Hydraulic hoses degrade in sunlight, check them and knock off money for any that look like they need replacing. They might work fine, but it's a bargaining point. Move all the levers, if they're very tight mention it and knock off money. They might just need some WD40. Look for bodges, like bypassed oil coolers, DIY repaired radiators, welded linkage arms etc., etc. It might work fine, but you can knock some money off. Check the brakes. Some farmers don't consider these important. Note to self.... never sell a tractor to catweazle i would end up giving him money lol Edited January 26, 2014 by ferguson_tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remy 700 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Listen to farmer sim , cracking stock on a quality hill farm , advice from sim is well worth grasping , what are your thoughts on the david browns sim , I recon mf 35 /135 all the way.Although some grey fergies are superb tools , majors are cheap and a good tool too. Note to self.... never sell a tractor to catweazle i would end up giving him money lol Ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Thinking about this now... http://farm.autotrader.co.uk/used-farm-machinery/case/tractors/case-885-4-wd-diesel-shipley-bridge-ffpa-8aa782b5422c5ac10142689da3f42d4c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC00P Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Is a shuttle gearbox or a hydro box ? Avoid hydro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Are the pleasures of setting up the hydroshift valves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) I thought hydroshift was good? Similar to an automatic gear system but without actual gears (or stepped levels) as it's all fluid controlled? Maybe they're a ****** to set up, but good once working? Supposedly easier for inexperienced drivers? Edited January 31, 2014 by sandspider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Hydro shift brilliant gearbox loverly for bailing and road work but a bit slow being case it'll have manuel gearbox no shuttle as it only came out on the 90 and 94 sereies on the lus side a recond hydro gearbox is 1500 and a manuel synchro is 6000 here some of my daily drivers abit out you price range I think tho atb scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC00P Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I like the 7810 scott , i drove them a good few years ago . my favourite tractor of all time The hydra shift was a good gearbox for its time on the 90 & 94 I thought the 885 only came with an 8x4 gearbox with an optional splitter ( torque amplifier ) but on the picture of the dash the decals on the left lever has forward and reverse icon I drove an old 584 ( i think ) with a full hydrostatic box ( like a combine ) and the photo reminded me of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC00P Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Its a bit big for you sandspider but it was great fun back in the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 His some more classics for ya Now if you want unreliable power you need one of these its my brother driving btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted February 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Yeah, mostly a bit big and a bit out of my price range! Impressive machines though. Any thoughts on hydrostatic vs manual gearboxes / transmissions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerSim Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Listen to farmer sim , cracking stock on a quality hill farm , advice from sim is well worth grasping , what are your thoughts on the david browns sim , I recon mf 35 /135 all the way.Although some grey fergies are superb tools , majors are cheap and a good tool too. Thanks for the kind words mate - we try to do the job properly! As for DB/Case - not for me, Fergy all the way. Is a shuttle gearbox or a hydro box ? Avoid hydro My thoughts exactly - too flippin complicated. Note to self.... never sell a tractor to catweazle i would end up giving him money lol Indeed.... you and I would be in the same club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerSim Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Yeah, mostly a bit big and a bit out of my price range! Impressive machines though. Any thoughts on hydrostatic vs manual gearboxes / transmissions? hydrostatic and the DB/Case hydro shift are two different things. New hydrostatic transmissions are good, but power hungry, and often computers are involved, which can make them very expensive to fix. granted they don't go wrong often, but, for the purpose you described, I would strongly suggest something much simpler. Most of the older manuals were made properly, before the bean counters had got involved, and this is why they have lasted, and will continue to last, with very simple "easy" maintenance. Unless you NEED the productivity of computer controlled hydraulics/transmissions etc - avoid them. ATB Sim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningDJC Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 That 7810 is a lovely tractor, for our 10 acres we have a ford 4600 fitted with a tanco power loader and its brilliant for all jobs, either a 4600 or 4000 would be fine. Very simple and easy to work on if you need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Thinking about this now... http://farm.autotrader.co.uk/used-farm-machinery/case/tractors/case-885-4-wd-diesel-shipley-bridge-ffpa-8aa782b5422c5ac10142689da3f42d4c Price up 4 new tyres....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerSim Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Price up 4 new tyres....... closely followed by walking away, coughing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted February 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 hydrostatic and the DB/Case hydro shift are two different things. New hydrostatic transmissions are good, but power hungry, and often computers are involved, which can make them very expensive to fix. granted they don't go wrong often, but, for the purpose you described, I would strongly suggest something much simpler. Most of the older manuals were made properly, before the bean counters had got involved, and this is why they have lasted, and will continue to last, with very simple "easy" maintenance. Unless you NEED the productivity of computer controlled hydraulics/transmissions etc - avoid them. ATB Sim Got ya, thank you. Simple is better, and I don't need super productivity / computer controlled anything. Got a couple of Ford 4000s on my Ebay watch list now too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 I've worked on ford 4000s and we still run four 4600s on the farm. they are very good tractors but they have one major weakness, the engine blocks go porous and let the water into the oil.most of the time its repairable but quite expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Note to self.... never sell a tractor to catweazle i would end up giving him money lol Aw, don't be like that. Tell you what, I'll take it off your hands for free. If you pay transport costs. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted February 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Anyone got any thoughts on mahindra tractors? Seem cheap for their spec... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav912 Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Did someone mention modern hydrostatics/CVT transmission type tractors? This is my main drive at work.... We do have a little MF 135 on the farm as well which is now for sale as it just doesn't get used for more than 10 hours a year now. If its a tractor that won't be used a lot I'd be looking at something from the late 70's or early 80's that doesn't have a lot of electronic stuff on it to drain the battery while its standing around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the enigma Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) Keep it simple, and go for something with as few electrics/electronics as possible............ they'll break your heart on an older tractor. They best medium sized tractor we've had was a Fiat 880 DT5 four wheel drive. Great gripping tractor, brilliant in the silage clamp,could climb over almost anything. The only downside, the body work was made from old bean tins and it rusted to hell and back. Here's my current donkey................... Very please with her, used mostly on a 2600 gallon slurry tanker, which weighs in at about 15 ton. It has the same Dynashift gearbox with the manual forward/reverse shuttle, as the smaller Massey's, and I've found it reliable and easy to use. Edited February 3, 2014 by the enigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm suffering from Tractor Envy...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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