markshaw2000 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hi everyone. I was just wondering if your allowed to shoot foxes at night with a shotgun?. Someone told me that your not allowed to shoot shotguns at night. Thanks Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 1. Never, ever rely on what 'someone' ... or even, on here, what 'someone else' says. Assume we are all incompetent. 2. Learn the law. Go read the Police home office firearms guidance. If ever prosecuted, the defence of 'I read it on an internet forum' will not get you very far. 3. Re-read point 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 As above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markshaw2000 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 1. Never, ever rely on what 'someone' ... or even, on here, what 'someone else' says. Assume we are all incompetent. 2. Learn the law. Go read the Police home office firearms guidance. If ever prosecuted, the defence of 'I read it on an internet forum' will not get you very far. 3. Re-read point 2. Ok I appreciate your point and thanks for the reply. But the reason I asked and possibly the reason why everyone ask questions on forums is to get people's views and experiences,preferably to aid me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 If your not allowed to use a shotgun at night, what do wildfowlers use to shoot duck under the moon? many a fox has fallen to the 12g and a lamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markshaw2000 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 If your not allowed to use a shotgun at night, what do wildfowlers use to shoot duck under the moon? many a fox has fallen to the 12g and a lamp Thanks mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 It's just a little anti social if near houses. In the dead of the night it's so quiet that a HMR sounds really loud. Just don't rattle off too many shots if civilisation is nearby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Quite often use my shotgun at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 you'll find a lot of the heard it off a mate "law" starts off with miss interpreting one piece of law mixing it with another then playing Chinese whispers with it. Go to BASC shooting pages and most of what you need to know is there. Have you read this years open licences? if you shoot pigeon crows etc etc you need to know the law, rather than assume you know. There are things you can't shoot at night but foxes are not one off them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Ok I appreciate your point and thanks for the reply. But the reason I asked and possibly the reason why everyone ask questions on forums is to get people's views and experiences,preferably to aid me. Again, read the points I made. You want to KNOW what the LAW on it all says, NOT what (as you put it) 'other people's views and experiences' are. They are utterly, totally pointless. If you happen to be out shooting, and you end up in a courtroom, the fact that 1, or 100, or 1000 people on an internet forum do it this way, or they think the law means that, matter nothing at all. I've said it numerous times, every single person who shoots should read and understand EXACTLY what the law does and does not allow them to do, be that the general licences, the law around shooting by footpaths and roads, humane dispatch, lead shot/non-toxic, the lot. Ignorance is inviting trouble, and giving the antis beautiful examples to hold up as they continue to push for more and more restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Remember ignorance is no defence in the eyes of the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markshaw2000 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Again, read the points I made. You want to KNOW what the LAW on it all says, NOT what (as you put it) 'other people's views and experiences' are. They are utterly, totally pointless. If you happen to be out shooting, and you end up in a courtroom, the fact that 1, or 100, or 1000 people on an internet forum do it this way, or they think the law means that, matter nothing at all. I've said it numerous times, every single person who shoots should read and understand EXACTLY what the law does and does not allow them to do, be that the general licences, the law around shooting by footpaths and roads, humane dispatch, lead shot/non-toxic, the lot. Ignorance is inviting trouble, and giving the antis beautiful examples to hold up as they continue to push for more and more restrictions. So I tale it that you don't personally ask questions on here as you already know the answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 No, I do ask questions. I did a week or 2 back, when I had a question regarding ammunition on a FAC application However, I only ask when I have tried to look up the FACTS of the answer first. If then I am still not entirely clear about what I'm reading, I'll ask for clarification. However, your original post was :'Someone has told me this'. If someone on here tells you something different, it just means you've now got 2 pieces of information, and you still have no idea which is correct, do you ? And again, we come back to my original statement. Go read and understand what the LAW on it says. Not what someone down the pub or on this forum thinks the law is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Simple answer should be................. Yes it's perfectly legal. Like you, I learn something new every day. Only fools don't ask questions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Your problem with forums is knowing which bit to take as gospel and which not I would rather point you towards the law for you to read. If you then want to know how a particular part is usually applied then asking for experiences will be more in context, and easier to filter bull from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markshaw2000 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Simple answer should be................. Yes it's perfectly legal. Like you, I learn something new every day. Only fools don't ask questions! Thanks for that mate. There is some helpfull people on hear after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 There may be some By-Law somewhere prohibiting there use but basically it is legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Simple answer should be................. Yes it's perfectly legal. Like you, I learn something new every day. Only fools don't ask questions! There may be some By-Law somewhere prohibiting there use but basically it is legal. This is partly what I mean I could of just said yes. But then Dekers adds his reply and you end up with an other question Here is an extract from the lamping code of practice. found here http://basc.org.uk/cop/lamping/ ShotgunShotguns with large magazine capacities (more than two cartridges) offer the user a significant advantage when dealing with large numbers of pests. For ranges up to 30 metres a 12 bore shotgun with a load of not less than 36 grams of large shot such as no. 1 or no. 3 is recommended as an effective alternative to a centrefire rifle for fox control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 This is partly what I mean I could of just said yes. But then Dekers adds his reply and you end up with an other question Here is an extract from the lamping code of practice. found here http://basc.org.uk/cop/lamping/ShotgunShotguns with large magazine capacities (more than two cartridges) offer the user a significant advantage when dealing with large numbers of pests. For ranges up to 30 metres a 12 bore shotgun with a load of not less than 36 grams of large shot such as no. 1 or no. 3 is recommended as an effective alternative to a centrefire rifle for fox control. But codes of practice are not law and nothing in the extract you have quoted above has any bearing on the OP's question " if your allowed to shoot foxes at night with a shotgun?". The answer to his question is a simple YES. Magazine capacity, shot size, distance, barrel length, permission to shoot on the land, do you have a SGC, is your FAC shotgun conditioned for fox and so forth have nothing to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I lamped foxes with a shotgun for a few years . And still do every now a then With great results . With no problems at all . Perfectly 100% legal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markshaw2000 Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I lamped foxes with a shotgun for a few years . And still do every now a then With great results . With no problems at all . Perfectly 100% legalJust for back in from lamping mate. Called one to about 20yd but couldn't take a clean shot cous it was behind a concrete post. It then circled downwind of us, picked up our scent and legged it lol.But we will be back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 yeah get yourself back out tomorrow , your get him haha , I love it requires a lot more skill , calling them in to 30 yrs , unlike the " all the gear and no idea brigade " it not hard to shoot a fox at 150 - 200 yrds with a CF , been there done that , got bored went back the real mans way haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Stevo and markshaw2000 what sort of setup do you have for lamping foxes with a shotgun? Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markshaw2000 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Stevo and markshaw2000 what sort of setup do you have for lamping foxes with a shotgun? Matt A lamp and a shotgun!! I used buffalo gamebore bb cartridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) As above Lamp .....shotgun....homemade fox call And the biggest buckshot loads can get . Got a dozen federal 3.5 mags left which are good for 40 yrds with the right choke Edited February 5, 2014 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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