kingo15 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 After looking for several weeks now, speaking to a few people and saving hard, I am now along the lines of thinking of buying brand new rather than second hand. After a trip to risley this week and speaking to a chap there i was thinking of going for the new browning due out on th first of march. Aslong as my sgc gets here by then. Is it madness to buy brand new for a first gun? Im just thinking long term would possibly make a better investment, as long as it fits and suits me i understand that. He has said i can use there demo guns before i buy anything. Just wondering if anyone else had gone down this route or do you always tend to buy second hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 A new gun is new for one shot only. Go second hand - they don't wear out like cars. You will get far more for your money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Buy second-hand for a first gun and make sure you get a gun that fits or have it fitted to you. You'll get much, more gun for your money in the second-hand market, plus as the man says that new gun is new right up until you fire that first cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Hi If your happy to pay 20% vat but new you will get a better grade second hand gun for the same money Enjoy shooting All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg.L Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) I was in a similar position to you recently. I wanted to buy second hand and get the best deal for my money etc but being new to shooting i didn't really know what i was looking at in terms of wear and tear etc and i didn't want to spend my hard earned and find out later id bought a total dog. In the end i bought new and i don't regret it yet as i know the gun is 100% and has 3 years peace of mind with the warranty. If i come to change it in a few years then i may loose a bit but i can live with that. And hopefully i'll be more experienced in knowing what to look for so will be able to buy second hand next time and get a bargain, All in all i know ive probably spent a bit more than i needed to to get what ive got but im still really pleased with it. Seems to fit me well and i manage to hit a good percentage of what im shooting at considering my experience level. Id say if its something your planning to keep for a long time then theres nothing wrong with buying new personally. And things like brownings and beretta's seem to hold there money pretty well anyway. Edited February 13, 2014 by Greg.L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 The advice from members above reference buying second hand is bang on and is a very good sensible way to go about getting yourself a nice gun. However if you are like me and like to have new and are there for fully aware of the history, then new is the way to go. I would however say that if you do go new I would go for a model that has been tried and tested rather than jump in and buy a new model. You will not go wrong with any of the popular gun makers, good luck and enjoy which ever gun you decide to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickB65 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 You will get more for your money second hand and if you go to a reputable gun dealer he will make sure you get a good gun for then you will come back for the extras. Buying new means paying 20% VAT and you may get more for your money second hand...... my first three guns where second hand and I only got a new gun when I part exchanged my HW100 set-up for a brand new gun..... I am convinced the man had lost the plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Kingo, A long as you're clear about the economic implications of VAT on new vs used then go ahead. I did well trading in a Miroku I'd bought used and equally well trading in a 6 year old Beretta I'd had since new. Overall condition is crucial; a popular model of gun kept in immaculate condition won't lose very much except the initial VAT. As an aside, what is the new Browning you mentioned? Do you have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Why is everyone going on about VAT ? You pay vat on all food,bills,cartridges etc . Find a gun you like and buy it . Go to a shop and tell them your budget and they'll show you new and used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 As above buy what you like and what you are happy paying.i have bought some new some used.if you buy guns with resale top of your priority list then you may end up with the wrong one.atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 would recommend 2nd hand as per Gordon,a gun lasts 100 years.....why pay 20% vat + mark up? you've lost 25% by shooting it which is £500 on a new gun for a warranty you wont use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicblue Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Its worth buying a decent brand like a Browning or a Beretta, over say a 5 year window and if you look after it then your investment is pretty safe, new or used. My 1st gun was a new Browning Ultra XS Titanium Prestige, a bit OTT for a 1st gun but I liked it from the moment I picked it up (fatal!). 4 years and maybe 40,000 carts later I traded it in and got back what I'd paid for it new... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Thank you all for your replies. Definitely food for thought. Can understand what your all saying about second hand. Will definitely look more down that route now. But won't rule out new just yet, still trying to find a way to claim the vat back through the family business ( that is a joke btw). Definitely plan on keeping the gun for a few years so want something to last and be reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damoyorkie Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Team Tractor hAs it right: go and tell your dealer what your budget is. The vast majority of dealers are keen for the return business and building relationships with customers that last a lifetime. They won't sell you a dog, but will give you the choice between new and old. The gun fit would be the most important for me, and if you're new to it, your dealer is probably the best person to size you up. Good luck. It's a great feeling, though, isn't it ? Looking forward to buying a first gun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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