Sundodger Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I would say it is Ash, because the bigger bits look a bit rough and beech is all smooth. Sundodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 If you ever get a definitive answer please let us know, I don't know, but neither Beech or Ash grab me as obvious answers, although I suspect it is one of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) My first thoughts were sycamore, but not that easy to tell from the small pictures. Would it not have been easier just to look it up online urself? There must be a idiots guide to trees somewhere. Would make it a lot easier when u can see tree standing shape of it and with branches attached and see the grain. The grain should be a dead give away And as someone said u really shouldn't be cutting down tree u don't know wot they are (assuming u cut it down urself) Edited February 16, 2014 by scotslad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Are DNA tests very expensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dempy Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I would say Ash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 a pic of the end grain if it helps , the said logs were as i found them in a local wood possibly a result of last weeks high winds if there is an idiots guide will someone please point this idiot in its direction as i cant find one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Ash with that end grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I'm sure if u google tree ID something will come up. I used to have books on it as a kid, just like u get for birds So far the 3 favourites are Ash, Sycamore and Beech, probably 3 of the most common hard woods there is. And usually preety easy to tell apart. I still think it looks like Sycamore, but been a long time since i looked closely at the grains i must admit, sycamore does tend to grow more oval shaped lke that (althou beech cam too), i usually think ash is a more rounded stem (althou wil depend if stem or branch) Ash tends to be quite a white/light coloured smooth bark untills its mature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I'm still going with ash, assuming the twigs laying on top of the logs belong to the logs, the leaves are in pairs, also bark becomes indented with age, white wood, Fraxinus excelsior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 That end grain certainly looks like ash but the bark on the first pictures look like sycamore?? There are some arb-folk on here that should be able to give a definative answer - unless there are logs from diffrerent trees there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 a pic of the end grain if it helps , the said logs were as i found them in a local wood possibly a result of last weeks high winds if there is an idiots guide will someone please point this idiot in its direction as i cant find one Like I said earlier I don't know, but that doesn't grab me as Beech! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 The answer is above holly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Golly Holly- I bet you never thought that your enquiry would get FOUR pages of replies and some very knowledgeable ones at that! I was the first to answer with beech..... and I still think that is the right answer. I have looked at many ash trees here today of all ages and the bark of your logged timber just does not tick the boxes as mature or immature. I would be 99.9% sure it is not alder for all the reasons that others have given - eg much more yellow or orange in the cross cut. Sycamore - yes possibly but it is a much faster growing hardwood and your photos just do not seem to tick that box. However, thanks for taxing some of the most arboricultural brains on P/W. If it is any consolation we had a visit from 50 international dendrologists here from all over the world two years ago - great, we thought, they could identify trees for us but no, they fought like cats and dogs and argued over everything. We had four specimens of what we believed to be Pinus Pinea - they or at least some of them rubbished that but in the end we found that we were indeed right and it was Pinus Pineas, otherwise known as the Stone Pine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Judging on your new statement "a stolen one perhaps?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Perhaps the best option would be to go back to where you found the logs, match them to trees local to that place then go back again in the late spring and check the leaves, and if this post is still going you can tell us for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) I've just this week, felled and logged 30ft European Ash and a 35ft Sycamore in the garden. The log grain in the photo resembles the sycamore logs more than the ash. Have you got a magnifying glass the lighter annular rings on the ash will be like the photo below. To settle the debate it you could cut a small piece across the grain and post it to me I will pop it round to the arboreal scientist at the local arboretum for a positive identification... Edited February 16, 2014 by Fisherman Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 The easy way is to split it lengthways, plane is smooth and post a picture up on here, I will confirm it in an instant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Any bookmakers on here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 5/4 sycamore... 13/8 Ash... 2/1 Beech..... 100/1Douglas Fir...... 100,000,000/1 Edwood Woodwood... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I'll have a fiver on Ash and 50p EW on edwood woodwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 5/4 sycamore... 13/8 Ash... 2/1 Beech..... 100/1Douglas Fir...... 100,000,000/1 Edwood Woodwood... 2:1 holly's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Judging on your new statement "a stolen one perhaps?" told by the lad whose job it was to move it " take it all if you want " which if i had a wood burning stove i would have done as you could drive to it on solid ground , asked said lad if he knew what tree type it was he said "i am just paid to shift it try google " . i should have replied googles pants try using pigeon watch , a much better data base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Thats helpful of the cutter althou he's probably flat out the now and can't rememer wot he cut where (i would hpe he should be able to ID the 3 trees mentioned as so common) If no luck with the combined power of google and PW try going back where u got it see if other trees still standing are the same? Be easier to ID them standing with branches on, if that fails wait till leaves come out late spring be very obvious then as very different lleaves, althou the leaf litter will give u a clue the now as long as most of the surrounding trees look similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Here is a couple of photos I took earlier of trees I felled last week. One shows a distinct likeness to the log on post 56 ...one is European Ash. One is Sycamore...Question is which is which...? I know and I'm 100% sure which is which but I'm not telling until there's been a few guesses. An no I'm not dicking around they are not both the same. Edited February 17, 2014 by Fisherman Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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