Scully Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I agree with you on that zeus. Scully id have to say something or even plant a seed in his mind and watch it grow. If that dident work then id walk unfortunatley. On a shoot last year 2 pals were shot not injured infact one of them was shot twice by a chap that should no better he is no longer on the shoot he was asked to bag his gun and leave e immidiatly . As much as it was the guns fault I also blame shoot captin as he had put him down hill with beaters coming down hill also . Totaly agree scotslad I've heard one of his Grandsons (a lad I often took to young shots days when he was still a schoolboy) say to him, ' are you sure that's unloaded Grandad?' to which everyone would look round, but he would simply nod and smile, but that was as far as it got. In all honesty I wasn't often too close as I was always a beater; the only time I shot on that particular ground was on beaters day, and as is often the way on beaters days,none of the syndicate guns were present. I no longer beat nor shoot there, but not for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I have to agree with the general consensus on here. He has to be off the shoot, before someone is seriously injured or killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr pigeon Posted August 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Just an update on what has happened. A get togeather of the guns was organised without said gun. Unanimously it was decided that the time had come and enough is enough. After going to see him and explain the way he behaves is wrong, myself (his son), another gun (his best man) another gun (his best mate of 30 years) and a final gun (one of his neighbours) where told to **** off. We now truly believe that this is the right outcome as he has shown his true colours. Oh he also mentioned he would do what he can to ruin the shoot, now what? Any ideas? :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Its a shame that its come to that but at least you are all likely to live another year ! How is you farther able to "ruin the shoot " if he is not a member ? If he does not own the land then he will be tresspassing if he enters it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Sounds like you took the right approach, but it was ever going to be easy. Well done to you all. Did he mention how exactly he would go about ruining the shoot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 i think you did the right thing. i also think that when he calms down, he will realise/accept the situation and not carry out his threats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 U have definately done the right thing, even more so by his reaction to it. And i think u have done the right thing in having some of his close friends to help break the news instead of just urself I mean no disrespect but u can tell a lot about a man by how a gun takes it, if they are emabarassed/very sorry etc u can be fairly confident they will have learned there lesson and feel lucky that noone was hurt and should become safe guns (althou watched closely) but when they react badly and defensively they're never going to learn and are as well of the shoot. End of day it can happen to anyone in some situations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 U have definately done the right thing, even more so by his reaction to it. And i think u have done the right thing in having some of his close friends to help break the news instead of just urself I mean no disrespect but u can tell a lot about a man by how a gun takes it, if they are emabarassed/very sorry etc u can be fairly confident they will have learned there lesson and feel lucky that noone was hurt and should become safe guns (althou watched closely) but when they react badly and defensively they're never going to learn and are as well of the shoot. End of day it can happen to anyone in some situations +1 Some wisdom from a man who's seen it All the best for the next season You've done the right thing Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr pigeon Posted August 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Hopefully it was an idle threat but as he doesn't talk to any of us now we don't know. He doesn't own the land just lives in the middle of the shoot, so I suppose time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 You may well have prevented someone being seriously injured. If its any consolation I had the same problem with my Dad who would turn with a loaded gun at clay shoots with friends. He had handled thompsons, brens, lugers and all manner of weapons in the war but couldnt get the message, he thought he was safe. I had to stop taking him. The reaction you got was, perhaps, what you expected, we get tetchy when older, hopefully he will come round but, if not, read the first sentence again. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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