Ayathecockerspaniel Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 So I have had my cocker pup a few weeks now. I took the first week off work to get it settled and it was fine. While at the breeder they taught her to sit which Is useful so I used this command at dinner time to associate the sit with a pleasant experience. Since going back to work and leaving other members of family in charge of her I have noticed when I go home and ask her to sit she looks really nervous and has even gone away from me. I am not sure why this is, I do it at her level and my voice is "friendly". Has anyone had any experience with this? Any way I can get her out of this nervous rut? Its her only command apart from come so Its not from over doing any training etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Could other family members have told her off and used the sit command while telling her off or in a more aggressive tone ? Go back to trying to get her to sit using food treats or a favourite toy etc but you really need to get to the route cause which seems to be something happening when your not there. If you really struggle getting her back to where she was then try retraining using HUP instead of sit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 If your going to train a dog train your family or kennel it when your out. The one occasion you don't want them to associate two things they seem to get it first go, yet when you do want it then it takes a dozen I should go with Educating the family and at a few weeks / months I shouldn't worry about it, just don't do it a few weeks and chances are good it will forget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyChris Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 If the pup is still a few weeks old I wouldn't worry too much. It's probably a bit confused as it doesn't understand what it's supposed to do. My youngest cocker took months before she would sit. The problem is you want your command to be firm enough for the dog to know to obey but not too firm that it thinks it's being told off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayathecockerspaniel Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Thanks for all the input. I think the pup might of grabbed some clothing/hair of a family member and been told "no! sit". I will let the family know and leave it for a few weeks, then introduce it again with either sit or hup with food as an incentive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 You are wasting your time and the pups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PERCE Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 You are wasting your time and the pups. 100% true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) 100% true I'm afraid Perce is right as usual. A puppy needs consistency. Your family (until trained!) will probably be confusing pup and particularly at this stage confusion will lead to insecurity. Edited August 14, 2014 by bigbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayathecockerspaniel Posted August 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 So do you guys recommend putting her in a kennel? I have the option to bring her to work and have her crated in the car during the day while I look into kennels and training the family. We have a private gated car park and I look out onto it and all the cars so would be able to keep an eye on her and leave the car windows and boot open etc and go out to her every hour. I didn’t do this from the start because I thought she would get bored and she would be miserable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Sounds a better idea than leaving her at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayathecockerspaniel Posted August 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Sounds a better idea than leaving her at home Thanks, I will get onto the kennels. She’s my first dog so it would be pretty soul destroying if she is ruined from inconsistency....especially if it’s not me being the inconsistent one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Best of luck with her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 So do you guys recommend putting her in a kennel? I have the option to bring her to work and have her crated in the car during the day while I look into kennels and training the family. We have a private gated car park and I look out onto it and all the cars so would be able to keep an eye on her and leave the car windows and boot open etc and go out to her every hour. I didn’t do this from the start because I thought she would get bored and she would be miserable. Even with the car open I shouldn't do this but you do need to sort this issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 I cant see how that will work , what if you take her when its fine and it tips it down with rain a few hrs later ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Poor dog. Read some books about the subject asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Oh come on people, don't be so hard on him What's he supposed to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Oh come on people, don't be so hard on him What's he supposed to do? Well if he needs to take it to work to keep it out of the clutches of the family , training the family would be a good start ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Oh come on people, don't be so hard on him What's he supposed to do? Now he has the dog? basically have a family meeting for starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Now he has the dog? basically have a family meeting for starters About what? It's the blind leading the blind. The guy thinks the breeder trained the pup to sit before he took it away from the breeder and now cant understand why the goalposts have moved regarding the dog and it's sit. What exactly will he say needs to be done regarding training or nurturing the dog through it's puppy-hood, at this "meeting", when he's asking complete strangers on a forum about what should be done. All of this should have been thoroughly planned for well before buying the pup. The fact it wasn't leads me to the way of thinking that there is a certain amount of ignorance involved. Not a lack of gun-dog training skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 About what? It's the blind leading the blind. The guy thinks the breeder trained the pup to sit before he took it away from the breeder and now cant understand why the goalposts have moved regarding the dog and it's sit. What exactly will he say needs to be done regarding training or nurturing the dog through it's puppy-hood, at this "meeting", when he's asking complete strangers on a forum about what should be done. All of this should have been thoroughly planned for well before buying the pup. The fact it wasn't leads me to the way of thinking that there is a certain amount of ignorance involved. Not a lack of gun-dog training skills. A little harsh I think . Nobody is a instant expert , we all make mistakes along the way ,I certainly have , learning from them is the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 It's the lack of thought that is worrying. Not whether the OP is making mistakes training his dog. The place it is to live (house or kennel) should have been decided long before the OP decided to ask strangers if they though leaving the pup in his car, in a car park all day was ok. Regarding mistakes, yes, we all have and still do make them. Where the pup is to live/stay is elementary stuff though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayathecockerspaniel Posted August 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Well this all seems to of escalated rather quickly and can see why people discouraged me to stay off forums.It’s my first dog and I am simply worrying that I am doing something wrong, some of you have answered really helpfully and pointed me in a direction that is already helping the pup get out of this little hiccup.I am not sure how you expect me to know everything and call me ignorant on asking for advice is not helpful in the slightest. “Poor dog” I am not sure what conditions you think the dog is in or are you saying that because of ONE week of miss communication between family members and the dog?I have read books and watched dvds, but I thought that asking “real” people for advice would help me more as sometimes the books and dvds don’t answer everything that is happening and figured asking for simple friendly guidance would be the best thing rather than leaving it to get worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 'Poor dog' because the dog seems to have several people giving it instructions whereas it needs only one. The dog cannot help but be confused when all it needs in it's life is security and bonding with it's owner. I had people round for lunch a couple of weeks ago and one lady asked if she could see my young spaniel. Reluctantly I agreed and the next thing I knew was that she was throwing a ball for it! This may sound minor but it is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Well this all seems to of escalated rather quickly and can see why people discouraged me to stay off forums. It’s my first dog and I am simply worrying that I am doing something wrong, some of you have answered really helpfully and pointed me in a direction that is already helping the pup get out of this little hiccup. I am not sure how you expect me to know everything and call me ignorant on asking for advice is not helpful in the slightest. “Poor dog” I am not sure what conditions you think the dog is in or are you saying that because of ONE week of miss communication between family members and the dog? I have read books and watched dvds, but I thought that asking “real” people for advice would help me more as sometimes the books and dvds don’t answer everything that is happening and figured asking for simple friendly guidance would be the best thing rather than leaving it to get worse. Once you sift through the keyboard warriors on here you will find some good people that wish to help you. Its all to easy for people to sit behind a computer/mobile and infect members with their poisonous negativity. You ask for help, not hindrance. Good luck, I am not experienced enough to offer suitable help with your pup. Someone helpful will be along shortly so bare with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 So do you guys recommend putting her in a kennel? I have the option to bring her to work and have her crated in the car during the day while I look into kennels and training the family. We have a private gated car park and I look out onto it and all the cars so would be able to keep an eye on her and leave the car windows and boot open etc and go out to her every hour. I didn’t do this from the start because I thought she would get bored and she would be miserable. She will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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