Fuji Shooter Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 I hope Salmonds wife kept the receipt for those new curtains she bought for Balmoral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Havnt seen a single racist comment on this thread just some scots moaning about english rule and the english getting fed up of hearing it. Its not our fault you have gingernuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Scholl Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 I thought the Highlands would've voted yes. I'm a bit surprised by that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 are you in politics , put your money where your mouth is ,it is common knowledge police scotland want a purge on firearms ,this is an example ,now scotland will be used as an excuse for other forces to follow ,but as you dont want to accept what I can proove you are no better than Salmond with the ostrich approach ,again put up or If I understand correctly, Gordon is more than willing to put his money where his mouth is, the only thing stopping him is that you are talking about betting on the alleged outcome of a completely different event. Back on topic though... I've missed Farage's comments this morning, can anyone tell me where I might find them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graiglearn Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 If I understand correctly, Gordon is more than willing to put his money where his mouth is, the only thing stopping him is that you are talking about betting on the alleged outcome of a completely different event. Back on topic though... I've missed Farage's comments this morning, can anyone tell me where I might find them? who pulled your chain , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 This quite taken from the BBC was interesting and I think sums it up objectively... Spain's Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy warmly welcomed the Scottish "No" to independence. "With their decision, the Scottish have avoided the grave economic, social, institutional and political consequences that would have resulted from its separation from the United Kingdom and Europe," he said. "They chose between integration and segregation, between isolation and openness, between stability and uncertainty, between security and a real risk, and they have chosen the most favourable option for everyone, for them, for the rest of the British citizens and for Europe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AULD YIN Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 I thought the Highlands would've voted yes. I'm a bit surprised by that one. Like your side by side sticker,bit strange from a country that kicked britain out? johnnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 who pulled your chain , I got bored of your bickering and the cause was so simple, you had just misunderstood the point to which Gordon was doubting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Only because the Spanish Government are worried about Catalonia wanting the same. This quite taken from the BBC was interesting and I think sums it up objectively...Spain's Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy warmly welcomed the Scottish "No" to independence."With their decision, the Scottish have avoided the grave economic, social, institutional and political consequences that would have resulted from its separation from the United Kingdom and Europe," he said."They chose between integration and segregation, between isolation and openness, between stability and uncertainty, between security and a real risk, and they have chosen the most favourable option for everyone, for them, for the rest of the British citizens and for Europe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Only because the Spanish Government are worried about Catalonia wanting the same. Obviously. I've posted on this a few times, I think objectively though the statement is rather true. Spain technically won't find itself in the same situation though, unlike England, Madrid has ruled that November's referendum in Catalunya is illegal and would be ignored. To the tune of the Kaiser Chiefs... I predict a riot! For those like myself who missed Farage's statement... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11108465/Nigel-Farage-England-ignored-in-Scottish-independence-debate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AULD YIN Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Obviously. I've posted on this a few times, I think objectively though the statement is rather true. Spain technically won't find itself in the same situation though, unlike England, Madrid has ruled that November's referendum in Catalunya is illegal and would be ignored. To the tune of the Kaiser Chiefs... I predict a riot! For those like myself who missed Farage's statement... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11108465/Nigel-Farage-England-ignored-in-Scottish-independence-debate.html Should that not read UK or Britain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graiglearn Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) I got bored of your bickering and the cause was so simple, you had just misunderstood the point to which Gordon was doubting. ok can you say the rest of britain if regional powers are granted, and as in scotland a left wing region controls a regional police force they will not use scotland as an example to clamp down on gun owenership ? This is the point I made and I have proof it has already happened in scotland ,it was to warn fellow scottish voters {salmond is extreme left wing }what would happen if a yes vote prevailed and to warn fellow sportsmen what to expect if the new regional powers in the uk adopt the example of scottish goverment even before the vote Edited September 19, 2014 by graiglearn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 History has been made today, despite 3/4 of the Union not being involved and whilst it may suggest no change, I think the price to pay could well be in Scotland and the benefit to England. Politics may have woken up in Scotland, probably for the wrong reason but I get the feeling the others will have something to say about the chronic mismanagement of all this. Farage isnt such an idiot and of all, he seems to be sensing the mood in the remaining 3/4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 History has been made today, despite 3/4 of the Union not being involved and whilst it may suggest no change, I think the price to pay could well be in Scotland and the benefit to England. Politics may have woken up in Scotland, probably for the wrong reason but I get the feeling the others will have something to say about the chronic mismanagement of all this. Farage isnt such an idiot and of all, he seems to be sensing the mood in the remaining 3/4. 3/4? Try 9/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 To put the record straight, and following a pleasant interlude with flashman. the only person from Essex in my family is me, Maldon born and bred and having read most of the post's on here can say that the majority from the english have been un-pleasant and racist. I am ashamed to call myself an Essex man (although I love Essex), Some have said great banter, well my definition of banter is that its a good humoured exchange of ideas, not a one sided racist rant. Jeez its no wonder that half the scots want independence. Didn't realise you are so thin skinned. Perhaps Mumsnet will be more to your liking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Havnt seen a single racist comment on this thread just some scots moaning about english rule and the english getting fed up of hearing it. Its not our fault you have gingernuts Does anybody believe that the Scottish freedom fighters aren't having a pop at the English? All this talk about "Westminster" bullying them and "Westminster" spending all "their" oil money is disingenuous - they don't like it that Parliament sits in London and tries to balance their demands with those of Wales, Ireland and the England itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Does anybody believe that the Scottish freedom fighters aren't having a pop at the English? All this talk about "Westminster" bullying them and "Westminster" spending all "their" oil money is disingenuous - they don't like it that Parliament sits in London and tries to balance their demands with those of Wales, Ireland and the England itself. Why is it 'their' oil anyhow? It belongs to the nation. They didn't earn the oil, it did not come about due to enterprise. It happened to be in the ground in their locality and it benefits the whole of the UK. I wonder if there would have even been a referendum if they didn't happen to have oil on their doorstep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Should that not read UK or Britain? No I quite meant "England", but "London" would have been a far better choice in hindsight. I simply meant the "government" from a geographic perspective. ok can you say the rest of britain if regional powers are granted, and as in scotland a left wing region controls a regional police force they will not use scotland as an example to clamp down on gun owenership ? This is the point I made and I have proof it has already happened in scotland ,it was to warn fellow scottish voters {salmond is extreme left wing }what would happen if a yes vote prevailed and to warn fellow sportsmen what to expect if the new regional powers in the uk adopt the example of scottish goverment even before the vote Sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about and I don't say this to be antagonistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Does anybody believe that the Scottish freedom fighters aren't having a pop at the English? All this talk about "Westminster" bullying them and "Westminster" spending all "their" oil money is disingenuous - they don't like it that Parliament sits in London and tries to balance their demands with those of Wales, Ireland and the England itself. A lot of English, Welsh and Northern Irish are fed up with Lib/Lab/Con sitting in the "Westminster Bubble" too. They dance too much to the EU's tune me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 I think it's a complete joke. The vote has been about a 'United Kingdom'. With a 'no' vote Scotland will still have free hospital parking and no tuition fees, England won't. More powers devolved to Scotland will mean they may have different tax levels to England. Cameron has spoken of devolving powers throughout the rest of the kingdom, i.e Wales and Northern Ireland. What's united about that. In the meantime we're still governed by Brussels. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Didn't realise you are so thin skinned. Perhaps Mumsnet will be more to your liking? Never heard of mumsnet are you the ardman on that on that as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Mumsnet you must be joking never seen such a vile spirited site you need kevlar skin to look on that site. I would like to see free education across the board or not at all. Dont like the moaning the scots do then look at my daughter and realise she will never get the chance as we cant afford it Edited September 19, 2014 by pimpkiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartynGT4 Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Why is it 'their' oil anyhow? It belongs to the nation. They didn't earn the oil, it did not come about due to enterprise. It happened to be in the ground in their locality and it benefits the whole of the UK. I wonder if there would have even been a referendum if they didn't happen to have oil on their doorstep. Good point, there probably wouldn't have been one. Definitely an element of "there's oil near us so let's grab it, nationalise BP and have it all to ourselves and be rich!!". Not a particularly nice attitude when you consider how they became part of the union back in 1707 when England essentially bailed them out after the Darien disaster, but hey that was a rather long time ago. Personally, I'm relieved they aren't leaving the UK and I'm hopeful recent events will be a catalyst for politic change. Regardless of the result, it's got a lot more people interested and discussing the politics of this union and that surely can only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graiglearn Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 No I quite meant "England", but "London" would have been a far better choice in hindsight. I simply meant the "government" from a geographic perspective. Sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about and I don't say this to be antagonistic. so you stuck your oar in on something you have no idea what it relates to and your not antagonistic ,just like to up your post counts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Mumsnet you must be joking never seen such a vile spirited site you need kevlar skin to look on that site. I would like to see free education across the board or not at all. Dont like the moaning the scots do then look at my daughter and realise she will never get the chance as we cant afford it And there is the rub - fundamentals should be the same - education e.g. (cost per head the same) the bits around the edges should be varied - like the police, Procurator Fiscal etc etc. My child is lucky enough to be doing a PhD but has a massive debt and more than likely will (hopefully) be an asset to the country she was brought up in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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