hodge911 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 hi peeps I,ve had an invite to go have a crack at some geese by a very nice man . but as I have never shot geese before I am trying to find out before I go what cartridge / choke combination would be best for my gun . its the newer smart piston escort with 3" chamber . so any ideas / advise please thanks hodge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) 1/2 choke 36g #1s. Steel Edited November 14, 2014 by super sharp shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 What sort of geese , inland decoying or foreshore , scotland or england ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted November 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 What sort of geese , inland decoying or foreshore , scotland or england ? England inland and Canada,s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 1/2 choke 36g #1s. Steel Like that the rest dont matter it will kill them if you do your bit and respect the range geese are big if you don't think "that's big" its too far. In daylight in range means you could see their eye if you were at the right angle to them, think of the head as a teal an forget the body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reabrook Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 In daylight in range means you could see their eye if you were at the right angle to them, : I think he was intending to shoot them not bayonet them!! Clearly your eyesight is far superior to the rest of us mere mortals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted November 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 also am I correct in thinking ; 1/2 choke = modified 1/4 choke = improved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) I would go for the biggest load of the biggest shot you can get , not sure if there is a 3" commercial load of bigger shot than No1 available , I can recommend eley lightning 36gram in No1 but I would prefer bbs Choke wise I like a fairly tight one and I usually use a light full. Really dont worry about having to see their eyes its a pain in the backside trying to shoot them between blinks just try and get the shot well up front of the bird treat its head as though that is the target you are trying to shoot rather than the whole goose . Edited November 14, 2014 by fenboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 What me and most of the boys on our trip to welshpool were using eley lightning 36gram in No1 and half choke, The photo is in sporting pictures and there is a small video in the other section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 also am I correct in thinking ; 1/2 choke = modified 1/4 choke = improved 1/4 is improved cylinder 1/2 modified 3/4 improved modified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I think he was intending to shoot them not bayonet them!! Clearly your eyesight is far superior to the rest of us mere mortals Nothing hard about it with a grey goose ok a black goose its blooming hard. I have heard tell of all sorts of range judging tests but being able to see the eye seems a good one unless your own eyes are failing, I am not talking of hitting a goose or stopping it flying but a high percentage DRT shot. I never could figure why some think you cant kill a fox further than 35 yards but can drop geese cleanly at 50 + ! I suspect its coz they get too exited or cant call range very well, takes us back to the eye test don't it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Nothing hard about it with a grey goose ok a black goose its blooming hard. I have heard tell of all sorts of range judging tests but being able to see the eye seems a good one unless your own eyes are failing, I am not talking of hitting a goose or stopping it flying but a high percentage DRT shot. I never could figure why some think you cant kill a fox further than 35 yards but can drop geese cleanly at 50 + ! I suspect its coz they get too exited or cant call range very well, takes us back to the eye test don't it now Out of interest, if the goose is flying directly overhead, how do you manage to see it's eyes, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Wildfowler Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 when im decoying inland i always use 2 3/4" Victory mini mags no3 with 1/4 choke will bring em down every time no need for big expensive loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 when im decoying inland i always use 2 3/4" Victory mini mags no3 with 1/4 choke will bring em down every time no need for big expensive loads Are they not a lead load and therefore unable to be used inland in England ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 when im decoying inland i always use 2 3/4" Victory mini mags no3 with 1/4 choke will bring em down every time no need for big expensive loads They are lead arnt they? No good for the OP if they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 when im decoying inland i always use 2 3/4" Victory mini mags no3 with 1/4 choke will bring em down every time no need for big expensive loads Hopefully you'll be using them in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 when im decoying inland i always use 2 3/4" Victory mini mags no3 with 1/4 choke will bring em down every time no need for big expensive loads Inland Scotland RIGHT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Inland Scotland RIGHT? I think any answer now will be "yes" regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRamsay Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Hopefully you'll be using them in Scotland. You sure about that now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 I am sure this goes without saying, and I am not trying to teach grandma to suck eggs, but I am sure we all realise how important it is to ensure we comply with the law David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRamsay Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 I think any answer now will be "yes" regardless. How come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 I am sure this goes without saying, and I am not trying to teach grandma to suck eggs, but I am sure we all realise how important it is to ensure we comply with the law David I think the problen mainly lays with those that are shooting only inland and duck drives on commercial shoots . Only yesterday I asked a elderly gent how he got on with the steel cartridges I gifted him on his shoot ( a £500 a day shoot ) he told me he has not used them as nobody bothers with steel and they think as long as they have a couple in their pockets they will be ok. Which brings me to ask David , has BASC done anything to challenge the stupidity that is our non toxic legislation here in England , agreed it is stupidity we need to comply with but stupidity none the less . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenman Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 I am sure this goes without saying, and I am not trying to teach grandma to suck eggs, but I am sure we all realise how important it is to ensure we comply with the law David http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/New-twist-lead-shot-debate-UK-signs-international/story-24508163-detail/story.html#comments That battle has already been lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRamsay Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 I think the problen mainly lays with those that are shooting only inland and duck drives on commercial shoots . Only yesterday I asked a elderly gent how he got on with the steel cartridges I gifted him on his shoot ( a £500 a day shoot ) he told me he has not used them as nobody bothers with steel and they think as long as they have a couple in their pockets they will be ok. Which brings me to ask David , has BASC done anything to challenge the stupidity that is our non toxic legislation here in England , agreed it is stupidity we need to comply with but stupidity none the less . The problem in Scotland is.... what do you determin inland , is Wetlands, Thats the GREY AREA, I know what you mean about pheasant shoots, or other, but how would it you try and police that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) The report in the paper linked above needs clarification, the resolution passed is not binding in law, the points made at the resolution meeting are also wrong - see here http://basc.org.uk/blog/press-releases/latest-news/wildlife-conference-guidelines-on-lead-ammunition-flawed/ Yes we have challenged the laws in England and got some of them reversed early on. There is a lot more to do I agree, and we should all work together on this, I hope you all agree Wetlands under Scottish law are defined under RAMSAR - David - Edited November 15, 2014 by David BASC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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