Flashman Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Pity George: the royal toddler is being held responsible for a downturn in the fortunes of the once-popular name. In June 2013 George was a favourite among mothers. Come July, and the aftermath of the maternity event of the year, his name plummeted. With the prospect of another junior Cambridge putting royal names further into the spotlight, George has dropped further during 2014. Sarah Redshaw, the managing editor of the website BabyCentre which compiles an annual chart of baby names, said new parents did not want the pressure of having a child with the same name as the prince. “Kate and William have a lot of attention and parents don’t want to always be asked if they named their baby after Prince George,” she said. “And now there’s a sibling on the way.” Royal women have fared much better in the chart, which is compiled from 56,000 names. With the exception of Pippa, who has dropped 15 places, Elizabeth, Catherine and Zara have all moved up. The top girl’s name this year is Sophia, which has risen two places, edging out Olivia. For the boys, Muhammad, in its various spellings, is number one, relegating Oliver to second. The data shows a general surge in Arabic names. While Muhammad has risen 27 places, other Arabic favourites, including Omar, Ali and Ibrahim, have all entered the top 100. Nur is a new entry in the girl’s list, jumping to 29, while Maryam has risen 59 places to 35. Names that were popular in the 1970s had also staged a comeback. Emma is up to 19, Sarah to 51 and Maria to 81. Ms Redshaw said it was unusual for there to be such an early revival. “It is unusual that names come back into vogue so quickly,” she said. “It may be that parents do want something that kids in their classroom were called.” In addition, there are always the celebrity names currently in vogue. Emilia, from Game of Thrones, enters at 57 while Daenerys and Tyrion from the same programme also featured. Breaking Bad is being held responsible for the proliferation of Skyler and Walter. “Celebrity names are names that you talk about with your friends,” Ms Redshaw said. “They are not in the newspapers every day so they do not have the same attention as a royal name.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 I can see why they're not calling them Christian names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 This is why I will be voting for Nigel!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 This is why I will be voting for Nigel!! I don't think Nigel was on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE MEK Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Give it ten years and the top three will be,Mohammed Abdul and Osama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Nowt wrong with them arabic type names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_seagrave Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Call me Ishmael LS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) Call me Ishmael LS Moby ****? What's a big white sperm whale to do with this o esoteric one? Edited December 1, 2014 by TriBsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) So Arabic names are on the rise. Soon every Tom, **** and Harry will be called Mohammed. Edited December 1, 2014 by Reece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simjakcal Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 And why are these names becoming more popular compared to British names.....have we finally become out number'd ? ! I wouldn't of dreamed of calling my 2 boys anything but a British name. Even our David Cameltoe wonts to see one above No 10's door ! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11212217/I-want-to-see-a-British-Asian-Prime-Minister-says-David-Cameron.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 This is why I will be voting for Nigel!! Because of an online straw poll? Politics is in safe hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willxx Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Well if **** is going to be asterisked out then there's no hope for a comeback for that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Its amazing how much influence a popular pop or film star name can have on the tables. Royal names likewise. Don't get a lot af Agnes or Cyrils these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Its amazing how much influence a popular pop or film star name can have on the tables. Royal names likewise. Don't get a lot af Agnes or Cyrils these days seems they are all following sports stars these days Cassius Clay being the extreme example? KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Well if **** is going to be asterisked out then there's no hope for a comeback for that one! But surely he would have been christened Richard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Almost all male Muslims have Mohammed as their first name though, even if they don't use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) Almost all male Muslims have Mohammed as their first name though, even if they don't use it. Think its only the 1st born male that has it as their first name. edit just added this makes interesting reading http://qz.com/304224/muhammed-is-the-most-popular-boys-name-in-the-uk/ KW Edited December 1, 2014 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 I'd put this into the same file as the Afghan trained suicide buzzards, BS in other words. My better half is a midwife, reckons she's heard Sophia a fair bit but Muhammad never ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Almost all male Muslims have Mohammed as their first name though, even if they don't use it. This is a first for me. In my experience a fair few Muhammad's are a bit embarrassed about their name preferring to change it to Mo. Not that they should be embarrassed, after all there are terrorists with very Western names all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 I'd put this into the same file as the Afghan trained suicide buzzards, BS in other words. My better half is a midwife, reckons she's heard Sophia a fair bit but Muhammad never ! tell her to read the link in post 17 her unit may not have an influx yet! KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 tell her to read the link in post 17 her unit may not have an influx yet! KW Simply not possible. Utilising just a tiny fraction of grey matter will alert one to the reality that for Muhammad to be No. 1 newborn name in the UK the potential populace has to be at least 51% Muslim OR for the native (and European/other) sector of the population to have lost all interest in sex or be devoid of fertility. Think about it, it just isn't possible. Then you have to have the Muslim newborns parents wanting to call their child Muhammad. Muhammad isn't even the most popular newborn name in some Muslim countries never mind anywhere in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Simply not possible. Utilising just a tiny fraction of grey matter will alert one to the reality that for Muhammad to be No. 1 newborn name in the UK the potential populace has to be at least 51% Muslim OR for the native (and European/other) sector of the population to have lost all interest in sex or be devoid of fertility. Think about it, it just isn't possible. Then you have to have the Muslim newborns parents wanting to call their child Muhammad. Muhammad isn't even the most popular newborn name in some Muslim countries never mind anywhere in Europe. And even more grey matter will tell you that even though the majority of boys born are not called Mohammed the shear number of different names as opposed to the particular use of one in one group will mean that they will not now top the "most popular name " er and that's the clue its the most used name % wise from the 100 most popular names , not a direct link to the number of boys born, so yes it is possible. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 And even more grey matter will tell you that even though the majority of boys born are not called Mohammed the shear number of different names as opposed to the particular use of one in one group will mean that they will not now top the "most popular name " er and that's the clue its the most used name % wise from the 100 most popular names , not a direct link to the number of boys born, so yes it is possible. KW Ah..............percentages then. Not quite such a meal to be had then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted December 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 I'd put this into the same file as the Afghan trained suicide buzzards, BS in other words. My better half is a midwife, reckons she's heard Sophia a fair bit but Muhammad never ! This article was printed in today's Times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 I would like to see the numbers broken down a bit and how many variants they used as there are quite a few; Mohammad, Mohammed, Muhammad, Muhammet, Hamid, Mo etc etc etc. And if they counted other derivatives the same way would they be top? Names like Jim, James, Jamie or even J'aymeé could be seen as the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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