Markt3815 Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Starting to get worried now , been claying this morning with my 2 yr old cocker , got back at dinner time to find she can't here my voice commands nor the whistle but hand signals are fine she seems to have gone deaf she's been around gun noise all her life so scratching my head hard at the minute , anyone experienced this or in the know cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 If she has been around gun noise all her life then , she could well go deaf , they are no different in that respect to us humans . I really cant see why anyone would want to take a dog clay shooting , there are few dogs if any that do not suffer hearing wise if they are shot over a great deal , therefore I would protect them from unnecessary gunfire where possible , which clay shooting is. Hopefully her hearing will recover a bit over the next day or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 From what age and how often have you been taking your dog clay shooting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I really don't get why people take dogs clay shooting it's pointless with a dog that is trained to the gun. Hopefully it's not long term damage with a young dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Shame they don't make ear defenders for dogs, I doubt that standing next to a busy peg or in a hide does them any good at all either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I really don't get why people take dogs clay shooting it's pointless with a dog that is trained to the gun. Hopefully it's not long term damage with a young dog I agree. My auld lad is stone deaf after 12 years of hard shooting.Looking back if i knew i would have taken more care to keep him that wee bit away and taking to clays is pretty pointless imo,esp as its usually bang after bang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Shame they don't make ear defenders for dogs, I doubt that standing next to a busy peg or in a hide does them any good at all either. They do make them for dogs mutt muffs. http://www.google.co.uk/aclk?sa=L&ai=CMHiJ9iyXVLbmBKaOjAaf44KgBv7J-MQDhsicvlvcqrPABggAEAEgyZiiC2C7vruD0ArIAQGqBCJP0K8Nw4PHkVr957V36nTDFYM_M72PtWo2TY2CXeBXrrVLgAWQToAH7pn6IZAHA6gHpr4b&sig=AOD64_3NhlMVrr4iEBUPvDnYngdhwuhMlA&rct=j&q=&ved=0CCEQ0Qw&adurl=http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/%3Fie%3DUTF8%26keywords%3Dmutt%2Bmuffs%26tag%3Dgooghydr-21%26index%3Daps%26hvadid%3D24521122134%26hvpos%3D1t1%26hvexid%3D%26hvnetw%3Dg%26hvrand%3D9763231463049062310%26hvpone%3D%26hvptwo%3D%26hvqmt%3Db%26hvdev%3Dc%26ref%3Dpd_sl_5q60tcamap_b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I am in agreement that taking a dog clay shooting is pointless but even with that being the case, a two year old dog exhibiting sudden deafness is not to my mind a symptom of being shot over at a clay ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I am in agreement that taking a dog clay shooting is pointless but even with that being the case, a two year old dog exhibiting sudden deafness is not to my mind a symptom of being shot over at a clay ground. I think it will be mostly a temporary thing , get a big clay shoot going on and there is a awful lot of shooting going on , probably just dulled her senses a bit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADLY PLUMBER Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I am in agreement that taking a dog clay shooting is pointless but even with that being the case, a two year old dog exhibiting sudden deafness is not to my mind a symptom of being shot over at a clay ground. I think a visit to the vet tomorrow would be in order. Dogs at clay shoots also can get very grumpy as they get the gun fire but no work to do. I've seen them get very frustrated by the whole experience. I took my Cocker to a clay shoot twice when he was a pup too get him used to gun fire. From a distance to start with. Then closer when he was ok with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 When you take a dog clay shooting they can experience 50 to 100 shots at close range in a very short period of time. When out game shooting you are lucky if you shoot a fraction off that and your dog is often out flushing away from the worst of the noise unless you are in a hide. The deafness can be temporary or permanent from this amount of exposure. We occasionally take our dogs to the clay ground and they wear Mutt Muffs then. We got ours from Hopkins gunsmiths at Sandbach. If the worst comes to it and your dog is permanently deaf it can be retrained to a remote controlled vibrating collar for commands, but I hope this will not be needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) When you take a dog clay shooting they can experience 50 to 100 shots at close range in a very short period of time. When out game shooting you are lucky if you shoot a fraction off that and your dog is often out flushing away from the worst of the noise unless you are in a hide. The deafness can be temporary or permanent from this amount of exposure. We occasionally take our dogs to the clay ground and they wear Mutt Muffs then. We got ours from Hopkins gunsmiths at Sandbach. If the worst comes to it and your dog is permanently deaf it can be retrained to a remote controlled vibrating collar for commands, but I hope this will not be needed. 50 to 100 you should visit some of the shoots in Ruthin never mind your 50 to 100 shots it sounds more like the guns of navarone I take it all there dogs are deaf. Edited December 21, 2014 by E.w. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proudly Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I've never ever heard of dogs being taken to a clay pigeon shoot. What would be the point??? Just sounds absolutely ridiculous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markt3815 Posted December 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 It doesn't matter weather it's a clay shoot , sat in a hide or on a peg all gun dogs are subject to close noise , I just wondered if any one had experienced it aswell , after doing some further research on gundog forums its a common thing and dogs can lose there hearing from 24hrs to a week , she's got the vets tonight so we'll see what he says . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 It doesn't matter weather it's a clay shoot , sat in a hide or on a peg all gun dogs are subject to close noise , I just wondered if any one had experienced it aswell , after doing some further research on gundog forums its a common thing and dogs can lose there hearing from 24hrs to a week , she's got the vets tonight so we'll see what he says . I think what we are trying to say is , if your dog is a working dog it is likely to suffer hearing loss to some extent or anothe during its lifetime , it can then be difficult toi control the dog . So if your dog is your pigeon / game / wildfowling companion why on earth put its hearing at even more risk by taking it to a clay ground where it is not needed in any way shape or form . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 This seems strange, dogs ears are more sensitive than ours but even so, a few hours at a clay shoot shouldn't deafen a healthy normal dog. Was the dog perfectly normal before? No other symptoms? Hate to say it but it does need a vet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 She's at the vets tonight Dave, be interested to hear what they say. LG, is Hopkins still going?! Used to go there as kids to get air gun pellets when we were kids and lived near Sandbach! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 I think what we are trying to say is , if your dog is a working dog it is likely to suffer hearing loss to some extent or anothe during its lifetime , it can then be difficult toi control the dog . So if your dog is your pigeon / game / wildfowling companion why on earth put its hearing at even more risk by taking it to a clay ground where it is not needed in any way shape or form . Exactly, its a constant noise and unlike anything the dog would experience in the field. Try an hour on a clay ground with no ear defenders and it's not nice. In this case it does sound like something else as well but it's really not a good idea to take them claying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Still going strong. His daughter runs Hoppies dogs from there as well now, so lots of dog stuff too. They have a website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markt3815 Posted December 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Just back from vets , he said he'd doubt very much instant deafness from gun shot noise , gave her an anti inflammatory and an antibiotic jab said come back in a week if no better for camera in her ears under anesthetic but should be back by then as is most likely to have traumatised the ear drums , I can only wait and worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markt3815 Posted December 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Al4x it's exactly what it's like le in the field there's was only me and my pal there it's on a moorland hillside 50yds away you can hardly hear the shots it's that windy and bleak not your normal clay ground.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Gotcha that's no where near the same, we get people here on busy clay grounds with dogs. Totally pointless, if there were just two of you then you've been seriously unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markt3815 Posted December 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 At my wits end about it pal that dogs my life I just hope it comes back .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 At my wits end about it pal that dogs my life I just hope it comes back .. try not to worry I can assure you if the vet thought there was something worse he would have looked further and of course made you pay for it. All will be fine as time is the best cure.Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) Hope your dog gets better soon mate,there's nothing worse than worrying about your best friend.. I have had my fair share with my cone head.. Oh yes just look on sporting pictures and it's ok to shoot 200 pigeons with your dog but it's not ok to shoot a few clays half of the people on here are a bit quick to judge other's in my opinion . ATB Neil Edited December 22, 2014 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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