jimmydean Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I have just bought a CZ .17 hornet, varmint barrel and fitted a Pulsar 870 with rangefinder. Tried a few rounds and it looks v good out of the box. ASE ultra mod is light, effective and overall the tool is very accurate. My vermin shooting experience with it is zero but from the damage I have seen I would only use it for head shots on rabbits. As a foxing tool (even with varmint barrel), its light and perfect for just walking round with. Out to 200 yds I am hoping it will be as I expect on foxes. I have a good .22 Cf to back it up when needed. I find I see more avian vermin at distance on the ground than flying by in shotgun range - thats why I bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I have just bought a CZ .17 hornet, varmint barrel and fitted a Pulsar 870 with rangefinder. Tried a few rounds and it looks v good out of the box. ASE ultra mod is light, effective and overall the tool is very accurate. My vermin shooting experience with it is zero but from the damage I have seen I would only use it for head shots on rabbits. As a foxing tool (even with varmint barrel), its light and perfect for just walking round with. Out to 200 yds I am hoping it will be as I expect on foxes. I have a good .22 Cf to back it up when needed. I find I see more avian vermin at distance on the ground than flying by in shotgun range - thats why I bought it. Chest shots will be fine on rabbits unless you want to eat or sell them. For foxes I am looking to work up a 25gr load using Hornady HPs, certainly unless you can get a steady head shot the 20gr Vmax is not good on chest shots on foxes. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmydean Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Chest shots will be fine on rabbits unless you want to eat or sell them. For foxes I am looking to work up a 25gr load using Hornady HPs, certainly unless you can get a steady head shot the 20gr Vmax is not good on chest shots on foxes. A I'll cut the range then at first as well as practicing to ensure an accurate head shot. I wonder if there are 25 grain factory made rounds? The .223 drops them dead - never had one survive the shot. Far too much gun for rabbits though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'll cut the range then at first as well as practicing to ensure an accurate head shot. I wonder if there are 25 grain factory made rounds? The .223 drops them dead - never had one survive the shot. Far too much gun for rabbits though. You can never have to much gun !!!. Doubt there are any 25gr loads, its a bullet more suited to 17 Fireball ( M4) and 17 Rem. There is a huge difference at point of impact between 17 Hornet propelling a 20gr pill and a 20 or 22 throwing twice the weight of bullet at a similar speed. I shot a crow late this evening, bullet hit a bit low, it was a flapper and needed my terrier to do the honours before my lab would bring it back. Had that been a 39gr SBK it would have been dead as a tick. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I'll cut the range then at first as well as practicing to ensure an accurate head shot. I wonder if there are 25 grain factory made rounds? The .223 drops them dead - never had one survive the shot. Far too much gun for rabbits though. There isn't a factory 25 gr load, only 20 vmax and a newer 15.5 gr NTX load that i don't think is available here. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 mine wont stabilise 25gr vmax but loves 20's....yet it will shoot 25grn hp bullets which are shorter.....I suspect it was just the length of the bullet it didn't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Sparkie, Is yours a 10-twist? Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 yes bud 1-10 twist stainless shilen barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dully1963 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Just a note to the OP if you take note all the people knocking the 17 are people who don't have one , buy one and it will put a smile on your face all day long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Just a note to the OP if you take note all the people knocking the 17 are people who don't have one , buy one and it will put a smile on your face all day long I've read all the replies to my post. I intend to buy a .17 Hornet, although it won't be for a few months. Hoping to buy a new one, or a very good 2nd hand one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstenson123 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I was going for the hornet but I don't know now , can't make my mind up between 17 hornet or 17rem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I was going for the hornet but I don't know now , can't make my mind up between 17 hornet or 17rem I originally planned to get a .17 remington, as this would be a far better calibre for longer range shooting. But, as there are no new rifles available in this calibre, and the fact that 2nd hand ones could have worn out barrels, I decided to go for the Hornet. If I could pick up a cheap .17 Rem, I would be prepared to have a new barrel fitted to it, should the original barrel be worn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I originally planned to get a .17 remington, as this would be a far better calibre for longer range shooting. But, as there are no new rifles available in this calibre, and the fact that 2nd hand ones could have worn out barrels, I decided to go for the Hornet. If I could pick up a cheap .17 Rem, I would be prepared to have a new barrel fitted to it, should the original barrel be worn. i know where there is a tikka m595 with a pacnor barrel sat in a lads cabinet. he has only fired about 400 rounds down it. deadly accurate with 25 vmax. he has 223 and 243 tikka's also and there both scoped so the 17 rem is sat there doing nothing. i would love it myself. im a massive fan with the 17 calibre. when i had a fireball and a 17 rem. there was no better then sititng on the bales on the farm picking off. rabbits. pigeons and crows. and foxes in the evening. low recoil and seeing the hits where superb. i just havent got the dosh to have a number of rifles anymore.and the fact im not really doing much shooting. it would be a waste of a top rifle sat in the cabinet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pstenson123 Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 PM sent. Hi Steve , have you bought this 17 rem??? ATB . Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted April 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Hi Steve , have you bought this 17 rem??? ATB . Paul If you mean the one that jamie g mentioned, then no I have'nt. My FAC is in the process of being renewed. I have asked for a .17 Hornet, but it could be changed to a .17 Remington when the FEO calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 the 17 is a superb little calibre. i would love another one. the fireball i had was very accurate. it jsut didnt feed from the mag. my own fault really as i had it built on a tikka m595 action. abit to big of a action really for this little case. would be better off with a hw action. annie, or sako.a1. they feed the round superb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Sold my 17 fireball as the HMR was going to replace it should never have done it. Still don't like the HMR but have to use it now but thinking about another 17 CF but there's to many to pick now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the enigma Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I originally planned to get a .17 remington, as this would be a far better calibre for longer range shooting. But, as there are no new rifles available in this calibre, and the fact that 2nd hand ones could have worn out barrels, I decided to go for the Hornet. If I could pick up a cheap .17 Rem, I would be prepared to have a new barrel fitted to it, should the original barrel be worn. Came across this, if the barrel was shot out it would be an excellent action for a rebarrel. http://www.southcoastgunmakers.co.uk/store/p54/Tikka_M595_Master_Continental_.17_Rem_.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmydean Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 4500 fps has to be a barrel burner ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 It won't actually be doing 4500- that is a serious stretch for a 17 Rem. If it had been run that hard I'd run away quickly. In reality, that is a bit of a marketing stretch by the seller. The 17 Rem is a 4k cartridge with 25gr bullets and ~4200 with 20's if you want to (though the 21" barrel on that one wouldn't help). For a nice shooting version, push the 25 V-max around 3900 or so and call it a day. Also note that the parent case isn't a 222. It is the 222 Improved which is a bit bigger/longer. thanks rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 It won't actually be doing 4500- that is a serious stretch for a 17 Rem. If it had been run that hard I'd run away quickly. In reality, that is a bit of a marketing stretch by the seller. The 17 Rem is a 4k cartridge with 25gr bullets and ~4200 with 20's if you want to (though the 21" barrel on that one wouldn't help). For a nice shooting version, push the 25 V-max around 3900 or so and call it a day. Also note that the parent case isn't a 222. It is the 222 Improved which is a bit bigger/longer. thanks rick There was a 222 magnum years ago! It is not so much the speed but the heat build up from repeated shots. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Thanks underdog, That's actually what I meant to type. The 222 Magnum was the parent for the 17, not the 222 improved. thanks rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzbangwhallop Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Came across this, if the barrel was shot out it would be an excellent action for a rebarrel. http://www.southcoastgunmakers.co.uk/store/p54/Tikka_M595_Master_Continental_.17_Rem_.html Synthetic stock for sale at £50 on the SD too...... http://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/showthread.php/102628-Tikka-M595-synthetic-stock I won't be selling my 595 .17Rem......ever. Just too much fun. Cheers Fizz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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