keg Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I agree, always 3 parts, the banks, the govt and the public all created the crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 There will more attempts by Labour, LIB DEM and UKIP to discredit the Conservatives and undermine the brilliant job they have done in the last 4 years getting a country which was on its knees in all industries back on track. Oh come on get your tongue out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Oh come on get your tongue out Surely your confusing my tongue with KW's ? Edited April 6, 2015 by Fisherman Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Oh come on get your tongue out Have to agree with FM Rob, Left to Labour we would have been closer to the Greek situation. It's always been the case, Labour mucks it up, the Tories sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Have to agree with FM Rob, Left to Labour we would have been closer to the Greek situation. It's always been the case, Labour mucks it up, the Tories sort it out. The conservatives haven't made the situation worse,but to say they have done a brilliant job is stretching the truth a little far by anyone's imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I think with the mess they were left with Rob, to turn things round in five years isn't bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Have to agree with FM Rob, Left to Labour we would have been closer to the Greek situation. It's always been the case, Labour mucks it up, the Tories sort it out. I disagree to a point, labour would have to have made cuts, the so called bedroom tax was brought in by labour for private tenants some years before the unpopular tory version, and for all the whining that went on about labour selling all the gold, well what else was there left to sell? thatcher sold everything else bar the post office! and camoron sold that not so long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 It's not the fact he sold it, it's when he sold it, market was at its lowest. The sad thing is they in inherited a good stable economy then put an extra million headcount into the public sector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 It's not the fact he sold it, it's when he sold it, market was at its lowest. The sad thing is they in inherited a good stable economy then put an extra million headcount into the public sector I can't argue there, the economy was improving at a steady pace, just that labour is no better or worse than the tory party for selling stuff off, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 It was in part basic human greed which contributed equally to the banking crisis you cant blame it all on the labour government, as much as one would like too. Of course Clegg will have the knifes out for Cameron and Osbourne... he like Farage ( if he doesn't win South Thannet ) is facing political obscurity and redundancy. There will more attempts by Labour, LIB DEM and UKIP to discredit the Conservatives and undermine the brilliant job they have done in the last 4 years getting a country which was on its knees in all industries back on track. The job is not complete however and why any sensible thinking person would want to risk serious reversal for the sake change is beyond me. I think you have to ask yourself what in the long term is best for me and my family ? Climb the ladder to success or slide down the snake to failure and start all over again. Whats the first thing you say to Farage and Clegg on the 8th of May. ....................................... "Big Mac and Fries please with a large coke" Mike ..... back on the right track? .... Sorry to keep going on about it but .... National debt doubled because of increased borrowing ... growing at the rate of £10million per HOUR. What track are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Agreed, but i thing Maggie privatised a lot of businesses in order to make them stand on their own two feet. I'm reading " Crisis, what crisis" about the 70s and the stories of Tony Benn's nationalisation of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 National debt soaks up a massive £52bn in debt service costs annually. Talking about the cost of debt-financing more would sharply increase support for getting our national finances under control – rooting out waste and inefficiency, while preserving scarce resources for those who truly need and deserve help. Most industrial countries have increased public spending as a share of national income since 1997. But between 1997 and 2007 – prior to the financial crisis – the UK had the 2nd largest increase in spending as a share of national income out of 28 industrial countries for which there is comparable data. Over the period from 1997 to 2010 – including the crisis – the UK had the largest increase. This moved the UK from having the 22nd largest proportion of national income spent publically in 1997 to having the 6th largest proportion spent publically in 2010. Spending on public services has increased by an average of 4.4% a year in real terms under Labour, significantly faster than the 0.7% a year average seen under the Conservatives from 1979 to 1997. Therein is the problem.If the Government had managed to maintain the “bang for each buck” at the level it inherited in 1997, it would have been able to deliver the quantity and quality of public services it delivered in 2007 for £42.5 billion less. Profligate spending with no real increase in productivity or services. To reach the current 2018-19 target of eliminating the deficit, real-terms cuts in day-to-day spending on public services in 2016 and 2017 will need to be twice as fast as those seen since 2011. Do you think the voting public will take this. The issue is then interest rates. If they start to increase many people will be stuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Surely your confusing my tongue with KW's ? Now now petal,just because you are getting some flack dont try (poorly as usual) to deflect it elsewhere, be a good little lad and play nice. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Whenever you read Mike's posts you can picture him like this,works for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EucJIl0uonE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Mike ..... back on the right track? .... Sorry to keep going on about it but .... National debt doubled because of increased borrowing ... growing at the rate of £10million per HOUR. What track are you talking about? I'm afraid you are always going to have borrowing...the world survives on credit always has and always will. The size of the burgeoning population over the last 20 - 30 years makes this inevitable. Its very difficult for anyone to argue against the fact that Commerce and Industry, manufacturing and construction,(one of the biggest if not the biggest indicator ) are in recovery, unemployment and crime is down, exports up and Major investors from around the world waiting on the outcome of the election. What do you think the BOE will have to do to interest rates if a Labour or God Forbid UKIP Government is elected... just to stabilise the effects of inflation and plummeting share values which is inevitable. This will mean Mortgage and Pension misery for millions. Its a hell of a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Whenever you read Mike's posts you can picture him like this,works for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EucJIl0uonE Funny as that, and oh so true, quite cheered me up did that, as did watching a linked you-tube vid of Farage telling the ex PM of Belgium to SHUT UP KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 It might be a gamble, but UKIP are worth a punt, if only to make my vote heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 What I hate about most of the cuts is they are aimed at the most vulnerable in society the disabled social care mental health, people who have hardly anything to do with the crisis but they are paying for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) What a load of rubbish they certainly have an ex nf person working in their thanet offices , dont shoot me im just pointing out a fact that theres a few dodgy types working for them Edited April 6, 2015 by overandunder2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 they certainly have an ex nf person working in their thanet offices , dont shoot me im just pointing out a fact that theres a few dodgy types working for them They have one. Martyn Heale. He was a member of the National Front for ONE year in the late 70's then was a Conservative member and activist for TWENTY years, before joining UKIP TEN years ago. A little bit of balance required sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 They have one. Martyn Heale. He was a member of the National Front for ONE year in the late 70's then was a Conservative member and activist for TWENTY years, before joining UKIP TEN years ago. A little bit of balance required sometimes. yes i heard his excesses of the show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 the 2 big parties have sold us out,every last one of them has sold our industry to foriegners and now were a nation of shop keepers we cant make anything anymore all our heavy industry has gone forever and hardly any jobs for our youngsters,close our borders and send all the cheap manual labour back to Europe let merkel have em all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth82 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Go on nige!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 they certainly have an ex nf person working in their thanet offices , dont shoot me im just pointing out a fact that theres a few dodgy types working for them And one swallow doesn't make a summer. I was commenting on the tosh from FM that ukip had parallels with the scum of the bnp. Would anyone like to look at some of the groups labour and tory mp's belonged to in the past,there are some high rankers that would rather people forget some of the associations they had with groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 the 2 big parties have sold us out,every last one of them has sold our industry to foriegners and now were a nation of shop keepers we cant make anything anymore all our heavy industry has gone forever and hardly any jobs for our youngsters,close our borders and send all the cheap manual labour back to Europe let merkel have em all. Apparently we make more cars than Italy. So not strictly true that we can't make anything anymore is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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