keg Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 The scottish ruling on university fees is as racist as they come- how she can talk about fairness in race and diversity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Because she is a............................ POLITICIAN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcleod Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Because we spend money the way we see fit. If you want tuition fees sorted take it up with your own parliament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 She made a comparison between Cameron's approach to the EU like a child threatening to leave when he didn't get his own way!! I nearly fell of my chair!! Utter and total arrogance and hypocrisy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Because we spend money the way we see fit. If you want tuition fees sorted take it up with your own parliament. So we increase tuition fees for Scottish students only? a bit racist don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcleod Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Are you aware that Scotland is a seperate country? Scotland has its own education system, Westminster does not control this. I thought race was different to Nationality. Where is the racism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Yes and yes but this policy focuses on English students, not French or German or Italian. How can you defend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcleod Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 What do you mean? That English students who study in Scotland do not qualify? Do you think that French, German and Italian students do? Please elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 The policy that Scotland uses as quoted by the BBC But it is not just students from Scotland who get free tuition at Scotland's 19 universities - under European law, students from other EU member states share the same entitlement. However, students from other parts of the UK do not and Scottish universities charge them tuition fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 What do you mean? That English students who study in Scotland do not qualify? Do you think that French, German and Italian students do? Please elaborate. You've got it in one. Eu students get free uni education. English, Welsh and N.Irish students don't. ****** eh? (unless you're from mainland Europe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) How is her name spelt? It would be wrong to make accusations and not have the decency to at least get that right wouldn't it? Look again Kog. Edited April 2, 2015 by timmytree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedster Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 It's just another exercise in their divide and conquer campaign. Unfortunately, it seems to be working! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcleod Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) See what you mean, just looked it up on directgov. I think it might be stating the obvious, if a neighbouring government is offering a better deal for students,then it may attract too many students from England. This may make the legislative change unaffordable. Again, this is something to take up with your own government in Westminster. PS didn't have the heart to mention the spelling mistake. Lol Edited April 2, 2015 by mcleod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I'm not a student and my daughter is 9 so it's a while away yet but it's devisive and racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 See what you mean, just looked it up on directgov. I think it might be stating the obvious, if a neighbouring government is offering a better deal for students,then it may attract too many students from England. This may make the legislative change unaffordable. Again, this is something to take up with your own government in Westminster. PS didn't have the heart to mention the spelling mistake. Lol So are you defending it? That a French student gets free tuition at a Scottish university and an English student doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcleod Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Yes, and it isn't a gimme that all EC students get funding. The decision rests with the university and the Student Awards Body. As I explained earlier if every English student wanted to study in Scotland it would not be viable on a fiscal basis. EC students bring other benefits, like foreign language skills obviously and they tend to be above average students. Before you attack me a small country like Scotland could not support a large influx of English students. As i have already explained you must take this matter up with your own government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 surely it would be a good idea to attract the best students wherever they come from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 surely it would be a good idea to attract the best students wherever they come from Exactly...a bit like the NHS the best Doctors, Surgeons and Dentists are certainly not British. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcleod Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Won't disagree with you Islandgun. It is how the education system is arranged at present. I'm just glad I live in a country that allows its own population to have their course fees paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Exactly...a bit like the NHS the best Doctors, Surgeons and Dentists are certainly not British. dead right but you omit the fact that our best British doctors dentists surgeons are in America Canada or Australia KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 The downside to this policy is that there's been a big reduction in college places... https://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6395665 ...and it's rumoured that the universities restrict the number of places for Scottish students so they'll get a number of fee paying English/Welsh / Northern Irish students in. Nial. BTW it's "Scurge-on" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Spot on Nial, people need to look beyond the face value to really understand what the implications of policies are. Maybe one day folk will work out that however something is dressed up there is always a cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcleod Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Had a look at the article Nial, there won't be any government department that hasn't suffered due to austerity measures and by that I mean the UK in general. The article seems to focus on part time study. The employment market is poor and wages are not the best. If your not earning enough you won't be able to pay for further study. Using Scotland as an example many jobs are low pay and low skill. As far as the rumour you hint at, you may be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmydean Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) Because we spend money the way we see fit. If you want tuition fees sorted take it up with your own parliament. Spoken like a man from Great Britain, whose parliament you still have a vote in disappointingly. Edited April 3, 2015 by jimmydean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Because we spend money the way we see fit. If you want tuition fees sorted take it up with your own parliament. Last I checked, we all paid the same rates of tax. One would think that we would all get the same services? Our parliament is yours too - well at least your have a vote in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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