overandunder2012 Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Inherit a thriving economy silly old me I never realised that a national debt of 1.2 trillion and rising daily is a thriving economy. perhaps the jocks coming in with their well known skin flint culture may be no bad thing. KW agreed its laughable if it wasn't so sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossEM Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 The Greens' manifesto is frightening reading, and they might poll more successfully than in the past, one example is the ex's Dad (a senior Civil Servant) and he's gone Green - it's not just the Far Left that is looking for an alternative. I've said this in a post before but I think we deserve a government that rather than managing our decline, wants to make some radical changes . The most important factors for the government to 'get right' are a well funded and balanced Welfare State, NHS & Education system, fair Taxation and to keep the unemployment rate low. The Labour overspend - Tory overcut pattern is rightly beginning to falter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 The Greens' manifesto is frightening reading, and they might poll more successfully than in the past, one example is the ex's Dad (a senior Civil Servant) and he's gone Green - it's not just the Far Left that is looking for an alternative. I've said this in a post before but I think we deserve a government that rather than managing our decline, wants to make some radical changes . The most important factors for the government to 'get right' are a well funded and balanced Welfare State, NHS & Education system, fair Taxation and to keep the unemployment rate low. The Labour overspend - Tory overcut pattern is rightly beginning to falter... The Tory cuts are quite gentle compared to what is actuallly needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 So lets think, the British taxpayer puts in 40 billion to support a corrupt and failed bank,then the proposed govt wants to sell the shares created to "give the taxpayer their money back" but only if you cough up between £250 and 10K oh goody that's everyone getting their money back is it? and the govt in doing so give up OUR investment and returns that should benefit us all for as long as , in order to get a quick short term tiny part fix on the debt that has spiraled in their term, and you think they are the responsible ones financially HE HE HE, yep they aint called cons for nowt come on you tenner waving con lovers tell me how that's good for us then. KW So we should have left the banks to fail, along withe the funds million of savers had in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 The Tory cuts are quite gentle compared to what is actuallly needed easy words if your not on the bottom rung. KW So we should have left the banks to fail, along withe the funds million of savers had in there? they would not have lost all their savings you know that I know that, and yes they should have been allowed to go pop. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Naughty Nicola is now offering a financial aid package to the North of England a lab SNP pact may have benefits to some of us after all, come on lads get the jimmy mac hats out and get off down the fishy for a fried mars bar. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) easy words if your not on the bottom rung. KW they would not have lost all their savings you know that I know that, and yes they should have been allowed to go pop. KW Up to a point Yes £85k i think but really? let the banks go pop? B & B, Northern Rock, Lloyds & i think Alliance & Leicester, can you imagine the panic that would cause. That's you being black and white again KW. Edited April 19, 2015 by keg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Naughty Nicola is now offering a financial aid package to the North of England a lab SNP pact may have benefits to some of us after all, come on lads get the jimmy mac hats out and get off down the fishy for a fried mars bar. <script pagespeed_no_defer="" type="text/javascript">//=d.offsetWidth&&0>=d.offsetHeight)a=!1;else{c=d.getBoundingClientRect();var f=document.body;a=c.top+("pageYOffset"in window?window.pageYOffset:(document.documentElement||f.parentNode||f).scrollTop);c=c.left+("pageXOffset"in window?window.pageXOffset:(document.documentElement||f.parentNode||f).scrollLeft);f=a.toString()+","+c;b.b.hasOwnProperty(f)?a=!1:(b.b[f]=!0,a=a<=b.e.height&&c<=b.e.width)}a&&(b.a.push(e),b.d[e]=!0)};p.prototype.checkImageForCriticality=function(b){b.getBoundingClientRect&&q(this,b)};h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.checkImageForCriticality",function(b){n.checkImageForCriticality(b)});h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.checkCriticalImages",function(){r(n)});var r=function(b){b.b={};for(var d=["IMG","INPUT"],a=[],c=0;c=a.length+e.length&&(a+=e)}b.g&&(e="&rd="+encodeURIComponent(JSON.stringify(s())),131072>=a.length+e.length&&(a+=e),d=!0);t=a;if(d){c=b.f;b=b.h;var f;if(window.XMLHttpRequest)f=new XMLHttpRequest;else if(window.ActiveXObject)try{f=new ActiveXObject("Msxml2.XMLHTTP")}catch(k){try{f=new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP")}catch(u){}}f&&(f.open("POST",c+(-1==c.indexOf("?")?"?":"&")+"url="+encodeURIComponent(b)),f.setRequestHeader("Content-Type","application/x-www-form-urlencoded"),f.send(a))}}},s=function(){var b={},d=document.getElementsByTagName("IMG");if(0==d.length)return{};var a=d[0];if(!("naturalWidth"in a&&"naturalHeight"in a))return{};for(var c=0;a=d[c];++c){var e=a.getAttribute("pagespeed_url_hash");e&&(!(e in b)&&0=b[e].k&&a.height>=b[e].j)&&(b[e]={rw:a.width,rh:a.height,ow:a.naturalWidth,oh:a.naturalHeight})}return b},t="";h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.getBeaconData",function(){return t});h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.Run",function(b,d,a,c,e,f){var k=new p(b,d,a,e,f);n=k;c&&m(function(){window.setTimeout(function(){r(k)},0)})});})();pagespeed.CriticalImages.Run('/mod_pagespeed_beacon','http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?s=2f3babec2b95bc204b44be191e2364ac&app=forums&module=ajax§ion=topics&do=quote&t=310330&p=2806264&md5check=507936ffec4d949303bc37c490d4cee7&isRte=1,l8PuqRhht8,true,false,2ytPdaBsBhQ'); //]]></script>&&0 KW She is an expert in divide and conquer.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Naughty Nicola is now offering a financial aid package to the North of England a lab SNP pact may have benefits to some of us after all, come on lads get the jimmy mac hats out and get off down the fishy for a fried mars bar. KW I think that's called bribing the labour heartlands with promises she couldn't (and doesn't want to) keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I still don't know if ukip are standing in my part of the country, if they aren't then it'll be a blue vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 She is an expert in divide and conquer..Just a bit! I'm no fan of the current government but frankly the thought of the SNP in partial power with labour gives me the willies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I still don't know if ukip are standing in my part of the country, if they aren't then it'll be a blue vote.I think they are fielding candidates in most areas. Should be very easy to find out online though. I don't vote for a party, and never have done, I couldn't vote for someone because of their badge - I need to seesee and understand the person for them to get my x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I think that's called bribing the labour heartlands with promises she couldn't (and doesn't want to) keep. I think she's letting her little bit of power go to her head. She could certainly become the 'kingmaker' at the next election, but I'm pretty sure Miliband will be well aware that any kind of coalition with the SNP could very easily see the beginning of the end of the Labour party as it is today, and quite possibly the end of the union too. Perfect for Sturgeon and the SNP but a hell of a choice for Miliband. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I think they are fielding candidates in most areas. Should be very easy to find out online though. I don't vote for a party, and never have done, I couldn't vote for someone because of their badge - I need to seesee and understand the person for them to get my x. I do that locally, I have mentioned that i am a Tory but locally voted Lib Dem, chap does a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 At least the 10 DUP politicians are pro gun, including handguns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Here in melton mowbray there are lots of ukip advertisements up on the roads and the first to get some leaflets through the door, they must ve hoping for a win here. It will be interesting to see the result especially with so many immigrants living here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Here in melton mowbray there are lots of ukip advertisements up on the roads and the first to get some leaflets through the door, they must ve hoping for a win here. It will be interesting to see the result especially with so many immigrants living here. That surprises me, i thought Melton Mowbray was very rural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo90 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 There is a massive lie (started by tories) that voting ukip will allow labour in.......... Ukip doesn't just steal tory votes, I am pretty sure they are stealing more labour votes than thought, as its the working classes suffering most due to the eu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 There is a massive lie (started by tories) that voting ukip will allow labour in.......... Ukip doesn't just steal tory votes, I am pretty sure they are stealing more labour votes than thought, as its the working classes suffering most due to the eu Why do they? What do you define as the "working class" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Melton mowbray is a strange place, its got alot of factories and rough council estates, its half posh half a dump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Melton mowbray is a strange place, its got alot of factories and rough council estates, its half posh half a dump How true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bad lindz Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 I think she's letting her little bit of power go to her head. She could certainly become the 'kingmaker' at the next election, but I'm pretty sure Miliband will be well aware that any kind of coalition with the SNP could very easily see the beginning of the end of the Labour party as it is today, and quite possibly the end of the union too. Perfect for Sturgeon and the SNP but a hell of a choice for Miliband. What people need to remember is that Sturgeon is the leader of the SNP and as such is the 1st Minister for Scotland. She herself is not standing as a Westminster MP but her side kick (who probably tought her all she knows) is. I have no doubt that Salmond fell on his sword last year came up with a deal that if I let you (Ms Sturgeon) take over the leadership, I (king Salmond) will stir up such a pile of **** if I get into Westminster that they will soon want rid of us and we will get the independance via a back door. Although I do have to give her some credit as she has been a very good at the various debates and given some of the others and the viewing public something to think about, but I still wont be voting for SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 What people need to remember is that Sturgeon is the leader of the SNP and as such is the 1st Minister for Scotland. She herself is not standing as a Westminster MP but her side kick (who probably tought her all she knows) is. I have no doubt that Salmond fell on his sword last year came up with a deal that if I let you (Ms Sturgeon) take over the leadership, I (king Salmond) will stir up such a pile of **** if I get into Westminster that they will soon want rid of us and we will get the independance via a back door. Although I do have to give her some credit as she has been a very good at the various debates and given some of the others and the viewing public something to think about, but I still wont be voting for SNP. I don't like the ladies politics, but admire her as a politician. If she had been the party leader through the latter stages of the referendum campaign I do think that the outcome would have been different. I am of course pleased that she wasn't and that the result was how I wanted it to be. She is one of the few standout politicians of her generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 I don't like the ladies politics, but admire her as a politician. If she had been the party leader through the latter stages of the referendum campaign I do think that the outcome would have been different. I am of course pleased that she wasn't and that the result was how I wanted it to be. She is one of the few standout politicians of her generation. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bad lindz Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 I don't like the ladies politics, but admire her as a politician. If she had been the party leader through the latter stages of the referendum campaign I do think that the outcome would have been different. I am of course pleased that she wasn't and that the result was how I wanted it to be. She is one of the few standout politicians of her generation. Yea, thats exactly my thoughts as well she could well turn out to be Scotlands version of Thatcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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