Big Al Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I am considering buying a sporter blaser f3. Does anyone else own one? It seems very loose opening but I am told it is because of the design. My other question is a strange one. The gun I am looking at was a 32" sporter which has been cut back to 30" and teague choked. The reason was that a badly fitted choke bulged the end of the barrel. It was re proofed when teagued and is sound. It is priced accordingly. Should it be something that should put me off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I can't comment on the F3 as I've never owned one, but I would have thought having a gun shortened and re-choked by Teague would add value to any gun and be a plus rather than a negative. It certainly wouldn't put me off. 30" is more than adequate for any gun in my opinion. My own sporter is only 28" and I certainly don't feel under gunned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I am considering buying a sporter blaser f3. Does anyone else own one? It seems very loose opening but I am told it is because of the design. My other question is a strange one. The gun I am looking at was a 32" sporter which has been cut back to 30" and teague choked. The reason was that a badly fitted choke bulged the end of the barrel. It was re proofed when teagued and is sound. It is priced accordingly. Should it be something that should put me off? One of the most noticeable (and to me annoying) things about the Blaser is the huge bulge at the barrel ends to accommodate the multi chokes, I can't see how chopping the barrels and teagueing it would help the aesthetics here. Regarding the ease of opening it is true they are smoother than most from new but the early ones in my opinion slop open too readily which I think is partly to do with slack tolerances but I could be wrong, even if I am I don't care as I don't like that. You can get fairly straight, unmolested early versions for well under £2k so that one would need to be very cheap for me to even consider it ( around £1k), and for similar money you can get better guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 One of the most noticeable (and to me annoying) things about the Blaser is the huge bulge at the barrel ends to accommodate the multi chokes, I can't see how chopping the barrels and teagueing it would help the aesthetics here. Regarding the ease of opening it is true they are smoother than most from new but the early ones in my opinion slop open too readily which I think is partly to do with slack tolerances but I could be wrong, even if I am I don't care as I don't like that. You can get fairly straight, unmolested early versions for well under £2k so that one would need to be very cheap for me to even consider it ( around £1k), and for similar money you can get better guns. Thanks for that. It's priced at 1500. It does fall open easily. My "problem" has been compounded by the fact that when I shot it at skeet, I shot 25 straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Thanks for that. It's priced at 1500. It does fall open easily. My "problem" has been compounded by the fact that when I shot it at skeet, I shot 25 straight. The trouble here is that you can for instance get a 30/32" Beretta 682e multi choke for between £1200-£1400 which will straight Skeet, Trap and most Sporting layouts to boot, I would defy any informed person to argue against that being intrinsically the better gun. They don't break, don't rust, cheap to rebuild, handle well, keep their value and sell on 3/4 times faster than a Blaser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 The trouble here is that you can for instance get a 30/32" Beretta 682e multi choke for between £1200-£1400 which will straight Skeet, Trap and most Sporting layouts to boot, I would defy any informed person to argue against that being intrinsically the better gun. They don't break, don't rust, cheap to rebuild, handle well, keep their value and sell on 3/4 times faster than a Blaser. All excellent points. Thanks Hamster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 £1500 Blaser is a used Maserati (being generous with praise) - the 682 is a used Hilux, one of them will let you down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 My "problem" has been compounded by the fact that when I shot it at skeet, I shot 25 straight. Well there you go then, job sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Well there you go then, job sorted. Thanks Scully. Now I'm confused. Is it a half decent gun or not? Hamster is clearly anti - blaser whereas I'm assuming German engineering means decent quality and as I seem to shoot straight with it then that is a good thing. Maybe I will look a bit more. Edited May 30, 2015 by Big Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I think the newer (Vantage?) ones look pretty sorted but the price is pretty steep too. I'm anti cheap, early ones purely because there are better buys out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I think the newer (Vantage?) ones look pretty sorted but the price is pretty steep too. I'm anti cheap, early ones purely because there are better buys out there. Fair enough. I have been a purely Browning man for 10 years or so but at the very least this has taught me that a higher stock is a good thing. I will try a few more before I splash out. Thanks for the help guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 If it is cheap now - think of resale. I would be put off by the barrel shortening, although I accept that I might be in a minority. I had a Blaser for a short time - never got on with the odd trigger pulls. Personally, I think there are better guns for that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Same opinion as Gordon above.find another one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Don't Blaser's reset the ejector springs on closing so as a result the gun is much easier to open? I know there was an issue with early guns where the angle of the locking bolt and bite made it difficult to move the top lever, but that was rectified. Google about that to learn more. If it feels good and shoots well for you and you can afford it then I would say buy it, the price isn't such that you will lose a fortune, all the depreciation has happened. They are not poorly or cheaply made so you're not buying into trouble. I would buy it at that price if i was in the market for a new gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Blazer repeatedly try to re invent the wheel . We still use wheels on everything ........................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted May 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Thanks for all the replies. I'll have a good look at what's out there in "the big 3" first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddJob Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 I love mine, its well balanced and fits well which, at the end of the day, is what matters. You are buying a gun for the job and it seems it's doing the job. As for it falling open very easily that would be down to personal experience. Mine doesn't 'flop' open in an uncontrolled way but there is some drop as would be expected from a used sporter. Maybe get smith to look at it. I got mine for £1650 due to a cut down stock and then it being put back on very tidily. If it works it will make you happy. The rest can be fine tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 I'd love to see what the barrel ends now look like, the choke bulge is longer than 2" I believe so if some of it is still there it must look a bit odd ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 I just wouldn't, for resale alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmobiler1 Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 If you like the gun and it fits, you shoot well and are happy with the price buy it mate. If you think about resale and finacial losses and then take into account your cartridges, clays and then your time you will never leave the house, have a hobby or spend any money!! Get it bought and enjoy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 If I found a gun I liked, at the right price and shot very well with, I would buy it regardless of what anyone else thought. The resale value of a gun like this wouldn't bother me in the slightest; it's a 30" barrelled Blaser F3 with fitted Teague chokes; Germans don't do mediocre. If it's in good nick then what more can you say? You can buy a Beretta or Browning of the equivalent price which are arguably a more desirable option but that is based purely on their resale value, it isn't because they are necessarily better guns, and if you can shoot either of those as well as you do the F3, then the resale value is irrelevant because the chances are you wont sell it. Not many people sell a gun they can shoot well with; they may well buy others, but always keep the one they shoot well with. Usually anyhow. I buy 101's like they're going out of fashion, but I know I can shoot well with them. I also bought a 32" Renato Gamba Daytona which fitted me very well and after taking it out on the clays I was smitten; the fact it had been retro fitted with Teagues slim fitted chokes was a bonus as far as I was concerned, and if the previous owner had had 2" lopped off the barrels before doing that I'd have been even more smitten. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) Scully - Gamba Daytona - now you are talking. Most guns being shortened wouldn't be as noticeable. Blaser, with their bulging muzzles - are more noticeable. Edited May 31, 2015 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted May 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 I have to say I hadn't noticed the bulging muzzles. I will be back to try it again mid week so will have a better look then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Most guns being shortened wouldn't be as noticeable. Blaser, with their bulging muzzles - are more noticeable. I'm not very familiar with the F3, so can't really comment on bulging barrels, but can't say i noticed at Lowther game show last year on the Blaser stand, but admittedly I was distracted by a very neat o/u rifle of theirs. Will have a look at some pic's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Here : Sorry but I've just tasted yesterdays BBQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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