Bazooka Joe Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=445979&in_ page_id=1770&ito=newsnow Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Governmentbacked study has revealed. It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial. There is also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques. The findings have prompted claims that some schools are using history 'as a vehicle for promoting political correctness'. The study, funded by the Department for Education and Skills, looked into 'emotive and controversial' history teaching in primary and secondary schools. It found some teachers are dropping courses covering the Holocaust at the earliest opportunity over fears Muslim pupils might express anti-Semitic and anti-Israel reactions in class. The researchers gave the example of a secondary school in an unnamed northern city, which dropped the Holocaust as a subject for GCSE coursework. The report said teachers feared confronting 'anti-Semitic sentiment and Holocaust denial among some Muslim pupils'. It added: "In another department, the Holocaust was taught despite anti-Semitic sentiment among some pupils. "But the same department deliberately avoided teaching the Crusades at Key Stage 3 (11- to 14-year-olds) because their balanced treatment of the topic would have challenged what was taught in some local mosques." A third school found itself 'strongly challenged by some Christian parents for their treatment of the Arab-Israeli conflict-and the history of the state of Israel that did not accord with the teachings of their denomination'. The report concluded: "In particular settings, teachers of history are unwilling to challenge highly contentious or charged versions of history in which pupils are steeped at home, in their community or in a place of worship." But Chris McGovern, history education adviser to the former Tory government, said: "History is not a vehicle for promoting political correctness. Children must have access to knowledge of these controversial subjects, whether palatable or unpalatable." The researchers also warned that a lack of subject knowledge among teachers - particularly at primary level - was leading to history being taught in a 'shallow way leading to routine and superficial learning'. Lessons in difficult topics were too often 'bland, simplistic and unproblematic' and bored pupils. Where will it end? I believe that we need to teach the Holocaust the same as we always have. There is so much evidence to prove that it happened. BJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjaimz Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 After reading that, it seems we're not far from being just like communist china in that history is 'covered up' for whatever reason. Historical events, acheivements and atrocities all deserve places in the history books. Not to teach pupils about things such as the holocaust for whatever reason is basically censorship, pure and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr W Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Sounds pretty similar to American schools that don't teach evolution as it conflicts with the bible. I thought schools were where people were taught facts not fiction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Please don't cut and paste large pieces from the Daily Mail, or the Forum will explode. I don't recall being taught anything about the Holocaust at school, it would be interesting to see how many people on here actually were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 I don't recall being taught anything about the Holocaust at school, it would be interesting to see how many people on here actually were. I wasn't either - but I now live in one of the biggest Jewish communities outside of Israel so I'm now fully up to speed on the whole thing.......Apparently it was down to the Germans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 starting with you 'ay' Wing Commander Cranfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 My history consisted of: Year 7: Roman Britain & Celts Year 8: Plains Indians Year 9: Dunkirk evacuation, Victorian England & Pre Victorian England i.e. 1600's No conflicts, no war's, nothing like pivotal moments i.e. Holocaust, Battle of Britain, Napoleon, Suez Canal, WW1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 IMHO in the fullness of time (not long now) we will be teaching Muslims about another Holicost and offending the Christians, this is typical of do gooders (normally middle aged women whos kids have grown up) who suddenly want to go and build an orphanage in Africa despite 1000’s of disadvantage folk here in the UK they could help if so inclined. When will all this **** end??? We cant even teach history now, ye gods we need to change our name from Great Britain to †Moderate and non offensive state for the resettlement of non indigenous persons with no jobs and lots of kids†Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duster Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 I was educated on the Holocaust in primary school, we did a project about WW2, I remember watching a video of Auschwitz, very graphic. Can't see that being shown in school nowadays. Cheers Duster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_est Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Please don't cut and paste large pieces from the Daily Mail, or the Forum will explode. I don't recall being taught anything about the Holocaust at school, it would be interesting to see how many people on here actually were. Cranners When you were at school the Holocaust hadn't happened yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Cranners When you were at school the Holocaust hadn't happened yet Its was the sixth post and I was betting it would be the third, or fourth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Sounds pretty similar to American schools that don't teach evolution as it conflicts with the bible. I thought schools were where people were taught facts not fiction A teacher I know who lived and worked in California said he was not allowed to teach any religion. They ignore it so as not to cause offence. The "its-a-bit-dodgy-lets-ignore-it" educational model then. What a load of brown smelly stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Seems about right for the standards of today. I was taught about the Holocaust at school, but having a Jewish "step-gran" who fled Austria before the war I was familiar with what went on. My grandad INSISTED on that sort of thing being taught, he thought the more that was known about it then the less chance there was of it happening again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darebear Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 another reason why all organised religion should be banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullterrier Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 I remember my ex-wife working in my old middle school as part of her nurse training. The head master told her "we don`t like to push the children at this school because they`re from a deprived area". What was all that about, to my mind because they`re from a deprived area you push them so they can get out of it by having an half decent education. It`s all liberal thinking gone mad, "we don`t want to upset the kids, it might ruin their life", let`s all be fluffy & unoffensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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