dob Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Been trying to put photos of a gun I bought at game fair but no joy. I bought an English box lock ,12 bore non eject ,Damascus barrels good nick, I paid £250 It's made by Charles Boswell. Have I done well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dob Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 The cereal number is 150 so I am guessing it's an early one, any experts out there ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Who know's? If you PM me I'll send you an e-mail address you could send them to. Then i'll post them here if this helps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Price is all about condition, Boswell sold some decent guns, it should always be worth at least what you paid for it. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Been trying to put photos of a gun I bought at game fair but no joy. I bought an English box lock ,12 bore non eject ,Damascus barrels good nick, I paid £250 It's made by Charles Boswell. Have I done well I think that you have done very well. Non ejector guns are much underrated, and as the barrels are good then will be a joy to own and use. As has previously been said, Boswell did sell some good guns. Certainly not an expert but the serial number however, is very early, and looking through the books I have, does not appear, so it could well be one that is not known about, as I think that the Boswell records were destroyed, but may be wrong on this. Love to see some pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Is it Nitro proofed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Further to my earlier post, I understand that Chris Batha owns the Boswell records and has resurrected the Boswell name and is now making new guns, so he maybe able to assist in dating the gun. Hope that this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dob Posted August 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 I will persist with pics, it has a nitro proof stamp among with lots of other different stamps I will take a pic and try to put it on here.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dob Posted August 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 I got cereal number wrong it's not 150 it's 105. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dob Posted August 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 My wife did this for me .she is a star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 (edited) Its been proofed 3 times ! Original possibly black powder , later Birmingham reproof and even later Birmingham reproof . Still looks tidy enough so on the surface £250 aint bad . Edited August 6, 2015 by Gunman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del T Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Looks a real nice gun. Imagine the stories it could tell! We had an opportunity to shoot a early Boss 16bore o/u at the weekend which was an amazing piece of kit. A bit out of our price range though. I would like to buy and keep an old English gun at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 (edited) Think those marks are about 1885-1904 era and Boswell was making guns a fair while before that-the 105 is a mystery. Action, to me, looks like a Birmingham made piece but I'm not sure if Boswell followed the majority of Gunmakers of the time and bought in mass produced action/Barrells and simply finished them in house? The gun may have been reproofed by the maker despite them being in London-Boswell "fell out" with the London proof house in 1914 and from then on sent the majority of his guns to Brum. Is there an address on the rib? Edited August 6, 2015 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dob Posted August 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 I think it's 126 the strand ,gun locked away at the moment.u know a lot about it .v impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Boswell moved to The Strand in 1884 which ties in ,date wise, with the proof marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 That's a nice gun :-) are all old English guns getting more sought after? I have a nice old English hammer gun locked away In my cabinet :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Depends on what it is, Twistedsanity-a very large proportion on English Hammer guns were mass produced in Birmingham and shipped out to "Gunmakers" who then embellished them to various grades and stamped their own name on the rib-you would be surprised how many "Top" London guns were made by Webley & Scott in Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Not only hammer guns as you'll know, my D.H. Wallace (Wigtown, Cumbria) is actually a Westley Richards (stamped on underside of fore end iron work) trade gun. no doubt sold to Wallace in the 'white' Depends on what it is, Twistedsanity-a very large proportion on English Hammer guns were mass produced in Birmingham and shipped out to "Gunmakers" who then embellished them to various grades and stamped their own name on the rib-you would be surprised how many "Top" London guns were made by Webley & Scott in Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 There are top quality guns and general quality guns, unfortunatly age alone does not improve a gun With the decline of SxS guns, I would also expect best guns to lower in price as fewer and fewer new shooters will use them and pay for a nice gun in a gun case thats never used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Ahh, I think it's a Frederick Williams or something like that, I got it for £350 from Frederick Beasleys as I had always wanted an English hammer gun, then the rib broke so the dealer had it re soldered and all the barrels re blued for me as a warranty repair, he reckons the repairs cost more than he sole me the gun for :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dob Posted August 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Nice to see the old guns out being used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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