pestcontrol1 Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I have just seen a graylag 8 bore for sale but would it have started life as a 10 or did they make them in 8 gauge in factory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I think they were a bored out 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Elderkins brought them in as 10's and bored them out to 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Elderkins brought them in as 10's and bored them out to 8 Yep that is what I was thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Check it out I think there were some true eights made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Thanks gents i have sent a message to see whats what with it. It just seemed cheap for an 8 and it looks in good condition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 It will be a bored out 10bore! to confirm this ask what the bore diameter measures? If it's a bored out ten bore it will measure around .815/.817 thou rather than nominal 8 bore at .835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 It will be a bored out 10bore! to confirm this ask what the bore diameter measures? If it's a bored out ten bore it will measure around .815/.817 thou rather than nominal 8 gauge at .835 bore Fixed that for you:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Ralph Grants were the first in this field, importing modified Kestrel 10s which sold for (I think) £500. They also imported single 4 bores at about £1000. Elderkins then followed suit with the Greylag. Some "full size" 8 bores were imported in small numbers at about that era. They were great clunking things with small hammers which looked as though they belonged on a 12. There is nothing wrong with a "small" 8 used sensibly and you can buy appropriately sized wads from such as Graham Deakin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 It's basically a zabala ten bored out although the Base ten was sold by other names than zabala though Just use the right wad size and it will be a good gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 its sold now anyway but some useful info cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Ralph Grants were the first in this field, importing modified Kestrel 10s which sold for (I think) £500. They also imported single 4 bores at about £1000. Elderkins then followed suit with the Greylag. Some "full size" 8 bores were imported in small numbers at about that era. They were great clunking things with small hammers which looked as though they belonged on a 12. There is nothing wrong with a "small" 8 used sensibly and you can buy appropriately sized wads from such as Graham Deakin. To pass proof (simplistically to prevent them blowing up!) the borer could not take enough metal out of the 10 (.775) bore barrel to make them true 8 (.835) bore! so they came out very tight in the bore (.815/.817).....add this to the choke constriction (? thou) and it is not difficult to see the potential problem of firing an .835 (or larger?) wad up it! Some Gualandi 8 bore plastic Wads measure .846 which yet again increases potential for damage to the barrels! The other downside is because they are ten bore weight guns with internal bore/chamber metal removed........they are very light for an 8 bore consequently they kick like the proverbial mule! As others have said......if you load shells with the appropriate diameter wads, they should be fine and kill geese very well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Have we any evidence of true 8g wads being used in a lesser bore of .815" and it resulting in damage? Or are we assuming we know it would be dangerous? 1/2mm to 1mm of wad diameter increase is going to do what exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Seems surprising that a plastic wad can do any damage to a barrel . Perhaps someone will enlighten us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Seems surprising that a plastic wad can do any damage to a barrel . Perhaps someone will enlighten us. All I know is that most, fibre or paper based wads come in a wide range of sizes per gauge but I have never seen anything said about in data!I mean even 12g can range from .718"-.729"bore! I shoot 10g wads in my .750" Bess and no damage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 It is usually shot that distorts chokes,but I have heard it often enough in those greyslags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john12 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 My brother is selling his 8 pestcontrol can pass you his details on if it's any use you aren't far from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 My brother is selling his 8 pestcontrol can pass you his details on if it's any use you aren't far from us. cheers John see how much hes wanting for it and drop me a pm m8 your only half hour up road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wigeon jim Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 As I have said before I have a bored out 10 bore which has had 1000 s of plastic wads through it, stick with a max load of 2 oz, also watch out when using paper base wad cases as the base wad can come away and stick up the barrel , Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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