Sambaker1993 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Hey guys little help I'm finding that my lab has discovered a bad habit of dropping the bird at my feet farther than letting me take it from his mouth ? Any tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) I put it back in the mouth and ask them to sit with it . If they do this , call them to you. If they spit it out ,I put it back in and hold the mouth gently closed and hold it for a while ,using the word "hold". Depending on the dog , you may find it works by walking away before they drop the bird or dummy and then turn away and crouch down while calling them in a stupid voice. If the come to you with it , see if they will sit and offer you the bird. Teach them to pick a dropped dummy and walk a while with you. Then take the dummy and give it back. Dogs will drop stuff if they are fed up. If you can get it to drop it at your feet , you're not far off. Edited October 23, 2015 by Farma Geddon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambaker1993 Posted October 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Would I have brought this on myself by using food as a reward for him bringing something back ? So he drops it wanting food ? Thanks for the information tho really appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Most likely. I never give treats ,only to my wife , if she drops at my feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambaker1993 Posted October 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Hahah I read you ! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambsman Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Most likely. I never give treats ,only to my wife , if she drops at my feet. Best line on here in a long time. Respect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot and be safe Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Chances are your dog drops it in anticipation of a treat. Instead of giving a treat,ggive prase instead. Or when the dog drops it at your feet, turn and walk away and send/tell the dog to go back and pick it up. That works for me, but others will be along to advise from a professional point of view. All the best, Sabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 My trainer got me to turn around and walk away then progressing to crouching down to get him to return to hand. Eventually you work to standing up but that is till wip for mine. He is better with game than dummies though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Would I have brought this on myself by using food as a reward for him bringing something back ? So he drops it wanting food ? Thanks for the information tho really appreciated Almost certainly , dispense with the treats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Chances are your dog drops it in anticipation of a treat. Instead of giving a treat,ggive prase instead. Or when the dog drops it at your feet, turn and walk away and send/tell the dog to go back and pick it up. That works for me, but others will be along to advise from a professional point of view. All the best, Sabs +1 a very simple method and very effective, I've used this method to correct many labs that have come to me, it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 turn you back and walk away and take the bird from the dog when you are walking away..............start that way until the dog hangs on to the bird....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambaker1993 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Dispense with the treats but I am in a new mind about saying treats are wrong these days it's the timing that most fail on A little kick of the bird at your feet and tell the dog to pick it and step back I should spend some time just on hold and release drills with this dog by the sounds of things. Reward to hold not the drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 As dog approaches lay absolutely flat on your back and he will come and stand over you instead of the other way round. Don't rush to take the bird from him. Do all your praise etc from this prone position then get up. Gradually you can go through kneeling to crouched to standing. Worked for me. (Best not to do this in the local park as people will call the van with the yellow wheels). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambaker1993 Posted October 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 As dog approaches lay absolutely flat on your back and he will come and stand over you instead of the other way round. Don't rush to take the bird from him. Do all your praise etc from this prone position then get up. Gradually you can go through kneeling to crouched to standing. Worked for me. (Best not to do this in the local park as people will call the van with the yellow wheels). Hahahhahah I might try this because turning away doesn't work I mean my pup is only about 18 weeks old but he is on point with recall and heal and sitting when I stop and finding the birds and bringing them back (to my feet ) I guess I might be rushing him along but I just want to get all the faults from him while he is young but at the end of the day I think I need to let him be a puppy too , thanks for everyone's input tho !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I never start 'retreiver' training untill nine months at the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Hahahhahah I might try this because turning away doesn't work I mean my pup is only about 18 weeks old but he is on point with recall and heal and sitting when I stop and finding the birds and bringing them back (to my feet ) I guess I might be rushing him along but I just want to get all the faults from him while he is young but at the end of the day I think I need to let him be a puppy too , thanks for everyone's input tho !! You are certainly rushing things I don't quite understand the " I want to get all the faults out of him " bit , all you are going to be doing rushing a dog like that is to create faults not get them out of him , slow down and do the job properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 You are certainly rushing things I don't quite understand the " I want to get all the faults out of him " bit , all you are going to be doing rushing a dog like that is to create faults not get them out of him , slow down and do the job properly. +1 Sit, heel, stay and come are about all I would be doing at this stage - And very little of that either. Play, play and play some more. You have the equivalent of a two year old child there. Probably less than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambaker1993 Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I just think if he is doing it naturally why stop him because he loves being out ! I know what you guys are saying tho , and what I mean is it is getting the hard work done now .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Can't agree with you - Sorry but there it is. You are probably teaching him habits that he will never get out of. He's a baby - treat him as such. You wouldn't try to teach a two year old child algebra. Edited November 2, 2015 by Grandalf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 18 weeks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 Hahahhahah I might try this because turning away doesn't work I mean my pup is only about 18 weeks old but he is on point with recall and heal and sitting when I stop and finding the birds and bringing them back (to my feet ) I guess I might be rushing him along but I just want to get all the faults from him while he is young but at the end of the day I think I need to let him be a puppy too , thanks for everyone's input tho !! That's very important at this age you shouldn't be doing " training " as such Just conditioning and play socialisation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Far to young to start the type of training you have mentioned in your previous posts, any training of this type should be purely fun/play training like sitting and giving the pup some sloppy baby praise, throw a ball and give praise on return.as the other posters have said, slow down, I have seen many a young dog ruined with over enthusiastic owners.It only takes one small mistake and you will forever have trouble with your pup.It is so easy to instil faults and very hard putting them right, just because your pup is keen to learn don't over do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Well we can only say we all tried to tell him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Well we can only say we all tried to tell him... As we have with a great many others on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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