bang bang birdy Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Hi all I'm thinking about a 22wmr for longer range rabbits and shorter range foxes. I have a spare slot for 22rf. What's people's experiences and opinions Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Hi all I'm thinking about a 22wmr for longer range rabbits and shorter range foxes. I have a spare slot for 22rf. What's people's experiences and opinions Thanks in advance hello mate . you may find you will need a slot for .22 WMR , not ,22 LR , some RFDs may sell you a 22 mag on a 22 LR slot ( which is technically wrong as there are two completely different rounds ) but the ammo will be entered as .22 WMR . if I was you I would check with your FEO , to be sure but I think he will / may make you put in a variation . Edited October 24, 2015 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 This has done the rounds on here on a fairly regular basis. If you specify lr then that is what you'll get; a .22rf lr, but if you specify just rf then you can have either a standard .22rf or a WMR. Again, some RFD's for some reason will still only sell you a standard rf if that is what your slot states, but by law they can in fact sell you a WMR, as mine did; it is still undeniably a rf. I had both and on my ticket both were entered as .22rf, though one was a Magnum, and neither was there any discrepancy between the two regarding ammunition; both were down as .22rf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 It's a good round. My friend started on it when I was young and I never forgot it. I have now gone full circle and no longer have any CF rifles to my name, just two rimfire. LR&WMR. No I can not shoot them at 200 yards but I am still getting fox's all the same. One gripe though, ammo these days just is not the same as 25years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang bang birdy Posted October 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 My ticket says I can purchase 1x 22RF. I'm in the Thames valley if that helps I already have a 22LR, will I need a variation for WMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) My ticket says I can purchase 1x 22RF. I'm in the Thames valley if that helps I already have a 22LR, will I need a variation for WMR I would speak to your FEO , its the ONLY way to get a conclusive answer if you was under Lincolnshire the answer would be a NO , you would need 22WMR specified on your ticket Edited October 24, 2015 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 My ticket says I can purchase 1x 22RF. I'm in the Thames valley if that helps I already have a 22LR, will I need a variation for WMR No in simple terms. Is a WMR a .22rf ? Yes it is so just go for it. If your Feo wanted you to have a 22lr they would of said so .im thinking of a WMR and my ticket says 22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) My ticket says I can purchase 1x 22RF. I'm in the Thames valley if that helps I already have a 22LR, will I need a variation for WMR Again, it all depends what your ticket states. If it states .22lr, or .22rf lr then that is all you can buy. If, on the other hand it states just rf, you can buy either a standard .22rf or a .22WMR or any other .22rf cartridge designation. The 'R' in WMR stands for rimfire. If, on the other hand you applied for .22WMR, then you would need a variation to acquire a .22rf. Odd, perhaps, but by specifying a cartridge designation such as either .22lr or .22sr (obsolete nowadays?) or .22WMR, you have restricted yourself to that specific cartridge designation. Regardless of whatever your RFD or FEO tells you, if your ticket states .22rf then by law you are entitled to buy a .22 WMR or a .22 short. It can't be explained in simpler terms. You can ask your FEO and if he says 'no', then you're scuppered, but when I applied for my first .22rf it was with the intention of buying a WMR. I didn't tell my FEO as it didn't even occur to me. My RFD nor my FEO (the latter of whom wasn't even aware I'd bought a WMR until I applied for a standard .22rf) never queried it. Edited October 24, 2015 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 If some comes to me with 22rf I will sell them any 22 rimfire with a 22 lr or 22 wmr. 22WMR is a great little round IMHO and I used it a fair bit for you intended use go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I rate the WMR very highly, prefer it than the HMR I rate the WMR very highly, prefer it than the HMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I rate the WMR very highly, prefer it than the HMR I rate the WMR very highly, prefer it than the HMR After reading the posts on WMR I really have the urge to get one. I know underdog rates them highly too. Think I may have to sell my brno 581 semi auto .22 to clear some space for one Curiosity is getting the better of me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 If some comes to me with 22rf I will sell them any 22 rimfire with a 22 lr or 22 wmr. There you go OP, job sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Scully re read your post what do you call a standard 22rf as your post suggest it's not a 22 Winchester magnum rimfire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Scully re read your post what do you call a standard 22rf as your post suggest it's not a 22 Winchester magnum rimfire? Ah, I see what you're getting at. I have just re-read your post at No 9; my RFD wouldn't sell a WMR to anyone with LR on their ticket, only if it stated .22 RF. By standard .22rf I mean the common .22rf lr everyone thinks of when someone mentions .22rf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 After reading the posts on WMR I really have the urge to get one. I know underdog rates them highly too. Think I may have to sell my brno 581 semi auto .22 to clear some space for one Curiosity is getting the better of me I keep thinking I don't need an LR anymore! Just can't do it yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I keep thinking I don't need an LR anymore! Just can't do it yet though. I did, a long time ago, it's not been missed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Ah, I see what you're getting at. I have just re-read your post at No 9; my RFD wouldn't sell a WMR to anyone with LR on their ticket, only if it stated .22 RF. By standard .22rf I mean the common .22rf lr everyone thinks of when someone mentions .22rf. That's the key if permission to acquire says 22lr it means 22lr if it says 22wmr it means 22wmr but if it says 22rf you can buy either. Same as 22cf covers 22 hornet to 22-250! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I did, a long time ago, it's not been missedThat's not helping lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 That's the key if permission to acquire says 22lr it means 22lr if it says 22wmr it means 22wmr but if it says 22rf you can buy either. Same as 22cf covers 22 hornet to 22-250! Yep, which is the reason why handgunners always applied for .38/357 and 9mm, in order to leave their options open, but I'm getting off topic now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 only your FEO or RFD can tell you what the RF means in your area as to the WMR it was my go to fox round for urban foxes for years very accurate, hits harder than it should given the size ammo is cheaper than other large rimfire rounds no issues with misfires or squibs easy shots out to 150yds bit of time and effort learning ranges and drops and it can be used further without issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 That's not helping lol. He he, I suppose it depends what you need, I have no other need other than magnum rimfires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) As already sad the LR/RF debate rages on. But there is no question that a .22WMR is a .22RF, however, what any RFD will sell you on a .22RF slot is down to them! I have .22lr, HMR and .22WMR, I rate the HMR a better long range rabbit gun than the WMR, but the WMR wins on Fox and Canada Goose for me, (WMR and .22LR still have their uses for fox though). For some reason I have never seen the WMR as a rabbit gun, perhaps because I have others to chose from. I do rate the WMR though! Edited October 28, 2015 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly47 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 A short time ago I put in for a variation with north wales for a wmr, I was just going to put in for another .22 but I was told by one of the nice ladies there that it must state wmr for NWP to issue one.... Haven't filled the slot yet..... Anyone got any for sale out there...? Tedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly47 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 A short time ago I put in for a variation with north wales for a wmr, I was just going to put in for another .22 but I was told by one of the nice ladies there that it must state wmr for NWP to issue one.... Haven't filled the slot yet..... Anyone got any for sale out there...? Tedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 A short time ago I put in for a variation with north wales for a wmr, I was just going to put in for another .22 but I was told by one of the nice ladies there that it must state wmr for NWP to issue one.... Haven't filled the slot yet..... Anyone got any for sale out there...? Tedly There is a anshutz just the other side of market Drayton from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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