LeadWasp Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Hi. I need to get a replacement for an electric Jung Heinrich forktruck and I'm wondering at the pro's and cons of going for gas. Never owned a gas truck but electric ones are such a pain. Always seem to have sick cells or run out of charge at precisely the wrong moment. Any thoughts?? Diesel is out due to confined space/ventilation. cheers LW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Just bought an electric one. Gas ok but can freeze in winter until warm, fumes in confined space become overpowering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted February 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 hmm good point - we have a big dead space in ventilation terms at the back corner of a very large mezzanine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Well get a gas powered forklift and install ventilation or use the one you currently have in the dead ventilation area! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adzyvilla Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 the toyota electric fork lift (traigo i think a 1.5 ton machine) I use at work is used and abused all day and has never given us a minute of trouble in the 5 years i've worked there. We have a 10 ton gas powered one also and it is a right pig to use. Stick to electric if you can I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 yeah stick to electric we have gas and can be a pain also bottles got to be in a cage with lock on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 I wrk in the industry and there are a few things that need consideration, gas is good as long as it is a modern ish engine, if gas engines are only lightly used the bores can glaze up, electric is good but again can have issues and replacement batteries can be expensive, pm me your number if you like and I'll get a colleague to call you to see what if we have anything that may suit, i work for Briggs equipment the uk hyster dealer. Adzyvilla that's one big gas truck you have there , not many come in that size, generally diesel for the extra torque . Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) the toyota electric fork lift (traigo i think a 1.5 ton machine) I use at work is used and abused all day and has never given us a minute of trouble in the 5 years i've worked there. We have a 10 ton gas powered one also and it is a right pig to use. Stick to electric if you can I say. We have the new Toyota Elec reach, it's a royal pain in the ***. The controls are delayed, the thing lurches back, after a charge you have to lift the mast 3 feet or it thinks it's traveling with forks up so creeps. The WORST thing is the steering. you just breathe on the wheel and it's doing doughnuts. Personally I hate the damn thing. Our Jungheinrich was a DAMN sight better, most of us at work miss the Jungy. The Toyota CB was better, but still not a patch on the Jungheinrich CB we have. Edited February 21, 2016 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted February 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 I wrk in the industry and there are a few things that need consideration, gas is good as long as it is a modern ish engine, if gas engines are only lightly used the bores can glaze up, electric is good but again can have issues and replacement batteries can be expensive, pm me your number if you like and I'll get a colleague to call you to see what if we have anything that may suit, i work for Briggs equipment the uk hyster dealer. Adzyvilla that's one big gas truck you have there , not many come in that size, generally diesel for the extra torque . Rich Thanks guys. Sounds like I should replace electric with electric then. I need a 1.6ton with a 4.2m lift, sideshift and a 3 stage mast so I can get under the mezzanine too with sheet steel where my plasma tables are located. For the bigger stuff I used my 12m telehandler but even with crab she's a beast inside the building so too much for day to day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted February 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Yeah the Jung's been good but the power steering went and they wanted £3000 for the pcb - which really is a FO price. Now something's gone phut down in the bowels and with some dodgy cells I think it's time for a spot of end-of-life recycling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 PM me your company details and I'll see what we have, we have plenty of used trucks or new, I'll look into it myself if you like , your spec is fairly common so shouldn't be a problem I'll pm you my works details Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Pm sent If you google Briggs equipment you can see who I work for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Yeah the Jung's been good but the power steering went and they wanted £3000 for the pcb - which really is a FO price. Now something's gone phut down in the bowels and with some dodgy cells I think it's time for a spot of end-of-life recycling. £3000 for a PCB? Can you not get the burned out components replaced? I think £3000 for a bit of board and a hand full of resistors, capacitors and relays a bit excessive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 £3000 for a PCB? Can you not get the burned out components replaced? I think £3000 for a bit of board and a hand full of resistors, capacitors and relays a bit excessive. That is silly money for a board.............. If you have a part number I would stick in Google and see what pops........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Also a thumbs up for Briggs here. I run 4x diesel pyroban 3te capacity trucks on site and have had good fast service from Briggs for any issues we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 £3000 for a PCB? Can you not get the burned out components replaced? I think £3000 for a bit of board and a hand full of resistors, capacitors and relays a bit excessive. That is silly money for a board.............. If you have a part number I would stick in Google and see what pops........ yes that's why i said it was a foxtrot oscar quote - been round the block already some time ago looking for a 3rd party spare etc. to no avail. It is also next to impossible to replace a chip that carries no ID...I wish it were as simple as passive components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Gas are petrol engined converted to lpg, still nasty fumes in confined spaces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 yes that's why i said it was a foxtrot oscar quote - been round the block already some time ago looking for a 3rd party spare etc. to no avail. It is also next to impossible to replace a chip that carries no ID...I wish it were as simple as passive components. There should be a schematic of the board somewhere, with the values of the IC. Can I just say, although I am not keen on Toyota trucks, they are normally out the same day for issues! I can't fault their service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice cushie shooter Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Do you work in scotland?? Briggs servicing man never away from my work!! Pm sent If you google Briggs equipment you can see who I work for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 No but I one a man who does I'm on the sales side of things for Hyster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Always runs out of gas when your know we're near the bottles , stick to electric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice cushie shooter Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Ah right. We have 6 of your 510's diesels. Best we have had! Cant mind the servicing boys name, sure hes from the west of scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ox Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 What you got to think about is the average life expectancy of a traction battery is 5-7 years and they can be a few thousand £. You may have the odd cell fail which you can replace to tide you over but when that's happening you know the battery is on the way out. Gas you can get problems if you don't use good quality LPG the vapourisers gung up for e.g. Then there's servicing costs which would be less for the electric esp a newer truck using AC motors. In all honesty I'd stick to electric, perfectly suits your application. Something like a hyster J1.6xn with a 3 stage full free lift and side shift. I too work for Briggs Equipment and have been a service engineer for over 10 years so if you have any questions feel free to ask Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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