bluesj Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 It seems that a couple of things have been missed by some. It was Hamilton that killed those children not the firearm he used, and it seem he was only able to have access to firearms because someone else deliberately caused the licensing system to fail. As I see it the firearms that Hamilton used were not legally owned as he should not have been granted a license to own them. If a bent copper says he’s not going to give you a ticket for drive your car at 100mph that doesn’t make it legal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 As an aside,my sympathy rests with the victims families and I think a lifting of the 100yr D notice to give them at least an honest account of what led up to this tragedy is the very least they are entitled to. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/11901710.Who_is_really_being_protected_by_Dunblane_100_year_ban_/ The fact that it's a hundred year man makes me think "what's in there." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 " Would you ban .22 semi autos? " I,for one,hope he has no bearing on the decision. "Posted Today, 07:39 PM Does anyone know anything about chrisjh, is he/she a shooting, hunting, fishing person or just a member of the public who does not like any of the above or anyone who takes part in them?" ANY update on this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foosa Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 " Would you ban .22 semi autos? " I,for one,hope he has no bearing on the decision. "Posted Today, 07:39 PM Does anyone know anything about chrisjh, is he/she a shooting, hunting, fishing person or just a member of the public who does not like any of the above or anyone who takes part in them?" ANY update on this ? not much, only that he hunts, shoots and enjoyed fishing in the past, also he takes family members shooting clays, although I don't understand why he feels the need to risk people's lives by having guns capable of killing, just so he can shoot targets with? A little bit like most pistol shooters used to do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 not much, only that he hunts, shoots and enjoyed fishing in the past, also he takes family members shooting clays, although I don't understand why he feels the need to risk people's lives by having guns capable of killing, just so he can shoot targets with? A little bit like most pistol shooters used to do! Thanks for that! Not a lot wiser though.............................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 The fact that it's a hundred year man makes me think "what's in there." The ban was lifted a few years later other than records relating to the post mortem in order to protect the families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 The ban was lifted a few years later other than records relating to the post mortem in order to protect the families. Have you a link to this please as I have not seen a full report despite looking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foosa Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Thanks for that! Not a lot wiser though.............................................................. Nope, but that's all I could come up with from previous posts and his/her answer to your question first time round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Does anyone know anything about chrisjh, is he/she a shooting, hunting, fishing person or just a member of the public who does not like any of the above or anyone who takes part in them? It pops up. posts something to get a response then either vanishes or posts more irrelevant gibberish to get a rose. classic troll Does anyone know anything about chrisjh, is he/she a shooting, hunting, fishing person or just a member of the public who does not like any of the above or anyone who takes part in them? Not my question:just interested in answers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foosa Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Not my question:just interested in answers! yep, sorry. Thought it was your question, straight answers seem to be in short supply here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 yep, sorry. Thought it was your question, straight answers seem to be in short supply here. Thanks:no issues with you.Straight answers and Dunblane seem to be an impossible goal.Although I have never been interested in pistol shooting,I do respect the right of others to pursue their hobby without let or hinderance and the politics(smoke & mirrors?)of the hand gun ban offend me.There are all sorts of conspiracy theories such as some of the links below,as for me I don't know what to believe:I wish only that the truth would come out. http://thinkfree.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2654.0 https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/blair-covering-up-paedophilia-even-involved-thatcher-chris?trk=prof-post&trkSplashRedir=true&forceNoSplash=true http://www.britanniaradio.com/call-to-lift-veil-of-secrecy-over-dunblane-uk-news-the-guardian/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 so, chris, are you getting similar responses on mumsnet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Have you a link to this please as I have not seen a full report despite looking? BBC link from 2005 below. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4290938.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 BBC link from 2005 below. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4290938.stm Thanks AVB, wasn't aware that the ban had been lifted. I can see why some of the files in relation to some of the victims ( RIP) will remain locked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Thanks AVB, wasn't aware that the ban had been lifted. I can see why some of the files in relation to some of the victims ( RIP) will remain locked. I'm not sure I trust them, every piece of information individually screened etc, would be easy to block the bits they don't want public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 BBC link from 2005 below. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4290938.stm Thanks for that! The edited report seems very "heavily"edited but a step in the right direction, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) The Dunblane deaths were down to McMurdo & his failings/questionable personal activities - but the powers that be find it easier to use scape goats & point the finger at others, than examine their own flaws under media scrutiny. Edited March 11, 2016 by saddler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Here is the report http://www.gov.scot/Resource/Doc/158868/0043149.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 That's a cracking bit of reporting; thanks for the link. Agreed but what a disgraceful excuse for not redacting the childrens names.......... we cant disaggregate them. Shame on all concerned, it really does smack of yet another cover up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3vert Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Dougy Well I stand corrected, Failing of the officer then to go higher, failing of the system. Which the FEO was part of the system, from grass routes level to the top. Boys clubs, which we have all recently all commented on regarding the BBC,another boys club some of the top politicians another boys club cover ups. Sorry but who can he got to above the chief constable? It clearly wasn't a failure of the full system because the FEO recommended rejection. He was rightly kept in his job until very recently, because he had done NOTHING wrong or improper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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