DannyS Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 sorry if its already been mentioned but, i was told yesterday that something was passed over the weekend that means Cameron can over-ride the result of the referendum if he wishes.... Can't find any info online, anyone heard anything on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 sorry if its already been mentioned but, i was told yesterday that something was passed over the weekend that means Cameron can over-ride the result of the referendum if he wishes.... Can't find any info online, anyone heard anything on this? I think this has been the case from day one. Its a majority rule in the house i think (or something like that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 sorry if its already been mentioned but, i was told yesterday that something was passed over the weekend that means Cameron can over-ride the result of the referendum if he wishes.... Can't find any info online, anyone heard anything on this? There can`t have been anything passed over the weekend, Parliament is not in session atm. Technically the referendum is not legally binding, it`s only advisory, and Parliament could block an exit. It would provoke a political crisis though. Eurosceptic MPs would be able to block almost any legislation the government attempted to pass (unless it was legislation approved by the SNP and Labour). There would be an immediate vote of no confidence in the Con. party and their would have to be a new leadership election. I suspect the party would fragment and you might well see a lot of defections which in turn could cause By Elections that in theory could weaken the government`s already minimal majority. In short it would be political suicide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 When the EU gives money to a scheme it will normally be matched by the recipient country or organisation. If the match is 40% a project costing £1000 would get £600 from the EU and the rest would come from the partner which could include existing salaries if they are dedicated to the project. It helps the EU to get more leverage to encourage countries to spend on priorities rather than local pet projects. When I worked in the Black Country (Wolverhampton Walsall Sandwell and Dudley) we received over £40m from the EU for land reclamation sorting out old coal workings and other contaminated land problems. We had to find 40% match and some of this came from land sales with money going back in for other works. If i remember correctly it created something in the region of 5000 jobs and improved around 200 acres of land bringing it back into use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3649655/How-Brussels-spends-money-grows-trees-devastating-dispatch-reveal-Eurocrats-live-life-staggering-excess-10-000-earn-PM-s-150-000-taking-decisions-affect-lives-secret.html More on how they spend our money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJL4 Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 With the apparent difficulty, and time taken by the EU to negotiate trade deals with the like's of Canada, is the reason simply because this is a "Club" as has been mentioned? The EU "club" are acting/dealing on behalf of all member countries and have to placate each and every one of them which I believe is why negotiations drag on. I see no reason if we in the UK vote to leave this club our negotiations regarding trade would be far simpler and easier acting as a single entity? Trade is not going to suddenly stop on Friday if we vote to leave, it will give us the option to negotiate solely for the UK's benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Unfortunately for us, the disastrous Leave campaigns' continued cock-ups have swung opinion back (just) in favour of Remain. Why the heck can't Farage and his cronies keep their big traps shut and stop courting controversy? The latest mess up concerns the Leave campaign's leaflets claiming that Nissan, amongst others, are in favour of Brexit, which they're not. What they actually said was that it was a decision for the British people. End result? The Leave campaign's being sued in the courts! Between that, controversial posters, idiots like Johnson et all, the 11% undecided may well swing in favour of Remain. How is it that people cannot grasp that the Leave campaign does not represent those of us who want to leave? They're not going to get into power (God forbid!) as the government remains as is (hopefully minus the duplicitous Cameron and Osborne). Lets cross fingers and hope that the undecided do their homework before the vote but I suspect that half of them at least won't bother to vote, so this is going to go down to the wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 With the apparent difficulty, and time taken by the EU to negotiate trade deals with the like's of Canada, is the reason simply because this is a "Club" as has been mentioned? The EU "club" are acting/dealing on behalf of all member countries and have to placate each and every one of them which I believe is why negotiations drag on. I see no reason if we in the UK vote to leave this club our negotiations regarding trade would be far simpler and easier acting as a single entity? Trade is not going to suddenly stop on Friday if we vote to leave, it will give us the option to negotiate solely for the UK's benefit. No doubt it would be easier to negotiate alone but maybe the terms are not so good for a desperate seller? If you were the US would you rather negotiate with the EU or the UK given the size of the market. It will be easier for the EU to resist GM products and avoid opening up health services to competition than the UK. These proposals are currently in the TTIP agreement on the table to the EU from the US. We want the trade but we want to maintain standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) TTIP is a secretive trade deal currently being negotiated between the US and EU.........research it..........if we are part of the EU and TTPI is agreed the UK will be tied into it!...........another reason not to be part of the EU! Edited June 20, 2016 by panoma1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJL4 Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) No doubt it would be easier to negotiate alone but maybe the terms are not so good for a desperate seller? If you were the US would you rather negotiate with the EU or the UK given the size of the market. It will be easier for the EU to resist GM products and avoid opening up health services to competition than the UK. These proposals are currently in the TTIP agreement on the table to the EU from the US. We want the trade but we want to maintain standards. Don't see any reason that we would be a "desperate seller". It could be the case that there are a good many "desperate buyers" out there ... ? Trading should be simplified with a single entity, ie UK, rather than the multitude ie EU Regarding TTIP, why have the talks been given a 30yr non disclosure clause if there's nothing to fear from them? Edited June 20, 2016 by DJL4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) To all you "remain" supporters posting on this forum, can I respectfully enquire, do either you, your business or the organisation that employs you receive either directly or indirectly any EU subsidy or grant money? I am not asking anything I would not answer myself!.....the answer is......as far as I'm aware no and I do not! Well the lack of response to this question from the PW "remainers" speaks volumes!!!!!! Edited June 23, 2016 by panoma1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 To all you "remain" supporters posting on this forum, can I respectfully enquire, do either you, your business or the organisation that employs you receive either directly or indirectly any EU subsidy or grant money? I am not asking anything I would not answer myself!.....the answer is......as far as I'm aware no and I do not! Yes. My employer does indirectly receive EU money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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