fortune Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 That's me Grandalf, I get umpteen that just sit out and won't come in to a call. If I have exhausted all other avenues I have to wack them out where they sit. There is the odd one that I can spend more than a week on trying to sort out. That's mainly thanks to the neighbouring numptys. We used to get this on a farm where a bloke used to go round on a quad with a pack of Lurchers and chase the Foxes all over the place. We asked the bloke not to do it but he said it was his sport and he did get some. The Land owner was friends with him and wouldn't stop him so we had to make the best of it. It was so bad that we would go into a field and put the lamp on and if a fox was quarter of a mile away it would suddenly disappear. Seeing as these foxes were coming off of other land that we didn't have access to and we couldn't organise driven, the only way we could deal with them in a small way was to park up on the field somewhere near where we saw the foxes coming from on moonlight moonlit nights and have roadkill tied on a stick about 3ft high. We took notice of the wind and the direction that the moon was coming from and use a low power pair of binoculars to watch out for movement on the field. The gun was positioned on the bipod aimed at the target so it was just a case of light on, bang. We did get a few like this. A mixture of natural loss, shooting and just harassing them reduced the problem to the point that the fox problem on our shoot was gotten under control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 This is where a long shooting gun and shooter, night vision and, above all, patience come into play. I have spent weeks that stretched into months trying to get some 'problem' charlies. The cubs that run into anything that makes a noise is not foxing - in my opinion. (Makes for very boring videos too - But that is another topic). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 What do you do when they don't come flying in? The older ones don't always respond. Our fields can be 3 - 400 acres. Not had that problem as i make sure i dont take long shots to miss them and then educate them. i tend to do things right first time, it makes life a lot easier. if i do get the odd one that sits looking i just walk closer. easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) Never been out with a perfect hunter yet. Never even seen one come to that. Ah well, nice to know there is one in the country. Never come across a perfect hunter before. Nice to know there is one in the country. Our foxes tend to cross shooting borders too... Edited October 9, 2016 by Grandalf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Not had that problem as i make sure i dont take long shots to miss them and then educate them. i tend to do things right first time, it makes life a lot easier. if i do get the odd one that sits looking i just walk closer. easy. If I did that I'd never shoot a fox. With deep valleys, all with rivers in the bottom or acres of boggy moorland, 200 yds is as close as it ever gets and that's not often. No chance of calling in a fox across a river, even if the fox were to take notice, and walking closer over our terrain isn't an option. If only my foxing was as easy as yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Aye up Grandalf, There's 2 of us lol. I only miss the ones that don't eat pheasants. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Aye up Grandalf, There's 2 of us lol. I only miss the ones that don't eat pheasants. Lol Short memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Short memory No you can't read.... I only miss the ones that don't eat pheasants... Any way that night couldn't have been any worse. Pouring rain, wading through copious amounts of mud in the dark, going posterior over head then seeing a fox only to find that 1 bi-pod leg was fully extended due to me slipping 50yards down a crevasse and the other still short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 No you can't read.... I only miss the ones that don't eat pheasants... Any way that night couldn't have been any worse. Pouring rain, wading through copious amounts of mud in the dark, going posterior over head then seeing a fox only to find that 1 bi-pod leg was fully extended due to me slipping 50yards down a crevasse and the other still short. e You coming Doveridge for pre season practise tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 e You coming Doveridge for pre season practise tomorrow? Would have, but unfortunately I am at work. I need to blow the barrels out, I'm asking for a day shoot on one of my perms I shoot the Fox's on, I recon I've have earned a day, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 I shoot all my foxes within 100 yards as I sit and wait for them to come to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) You'd wait a hell of a long time around here my friend. Dougy - Sorry mate, I had completely forgotten about you. Nearly had a munty two days ago. Hell of a job to put myself in the right position before dawn. Scrambling through brambles and fording a pond. Then, when munty appeared exactly where it was supposed to and on time at 60 yards - I remembered I hadn't chambered a round! Did it ever so quietly but not quiet enough - Exit munty back into the wood where it had come from. Perfect I am not... Maybe next time. Edited October 8, 2016 by Grandalf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 I have 250,000 ducks and 84,000 geese as bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 The nearest I've shot on this one estate was 140yds the furthest was 260 yds. All using an Archer and Dragonfly ir. They just won't get any closer. Mainly due to numpty lamping from neighbouring shooter's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 I have 250,000 ducks and 84,000 geese as bait. That certainly helps things a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 If I zero at 150 yards, what sort of drop roughly can I expect at 200 and 250. You need to try yourself. Many manufacturers have ballistic charts on their websites, this will give you approximations, your results will depend on a lot of factors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 You need to try yourself. Many manufacturers have ballistic charts on their websites, this will give you approximations, your results will depend on a lot of factors! +1 The only real way to learn it is for him to shoot it himself, It never really sinks properly it until then. You never really learn about your ammo either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 This is where a good mentor works so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooooper1 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 All of the above is pretty much how it is. I would have a look at the distance that you have in the fields that you shoot on and pace it out. But when you start set the target up at 30 paces and get it on to start with. This is very similar to shooting at the distance you want to be at and it saves a lot of ammunition missing the target if you set it up at 100+ when you pace out the fields you might be surprised at the distances. Write the distances down so that you know that field (A) is XXX yards from the gate to the other end or to that tree because distance looks completely different at night. I zero at 150 because it seems to be the best to get the bullet into the target. I don't advocate shooting at max distance and I always get to a distance that I can positively identify the target. If the target decides to go away leave it for another day rather than shooting someone's stray dog or cat. simple but dead right, only thing i would had to this excellant post is once you zero stick with that grain of bullet and make if possible if your happy with it,i find a lot of shooters around my neck of the woods tend to buy what evers on offer madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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