Competition Idea (.22lr sporting rifles)

[iano]

Bear with me here, this is something that I've been thinking about.

 

In the same way that sporting clays are set to match you find in the field, I've been looking for a good rifle competition that will focus on game shooting as opposed to target rifle formats.

 

My idea is simple enough, please let me know what you think

 

Format:

 

.22 lr, hollow point ammo only, sporting rifles only.

 

Shot from prone, can be rested on anything that would be used in the field.

Sights can be scopes or iron, but restricted to what you'd used in the field (So no target rifle sights).

 

There are three rounds of fire; 75m, 100m and 50m

For each round there are 5 targets; a metal disc (such as a thumbtack c. .5" in diamater) which is inside a circle that has a diameter of 1.5

 

Targets are numbered 1 - 5, the range officer will call out which target is to be shot and then you have 20 seconds to shoot at it up to three times. You want to hit the disc, you stop shooting once you hit it or you've fire more than three rounds

 

Once all 5 targets are shot, you repeat this at the next distance, then repeat for the final distance. You can redial your sights, or aim off, whatever you'd do normallywhen you are out and about.

 

The aim here is to match you'd be shooting like in the field; you don't get a rhythm going (as you do in ISSF style shooting), you don't get long for your target and you don't specifically know what is next to be shot.

 

the reason for the hollowpoints is they are probably the most common round used, and the reason for the metal disc / thumbtack is that it will mushrooms the round (also makes is very clear if you hit the disc or not)

 

You get maximum marks for hitting the disc (30 points), and six points for being inside the circle. Ony your highest scoring event counts and your score is decreased each time you take a shot so for example:

Fire 1 - land in the circle, miss the disc

Fire 2 - land in the circle, miss the disc

Fire 3 - hit the disc.

 

You get 10 points (30 divided by three)

 

Alternatively

 

Fire 1 - land in the circle, miss the disc

Fire 2 - hit the disc

Fire 3 - no shot

 

You get 15 points (30 divided by 2)

 

Alternatively

 

Fire 1 - land in the circle, miss the disc

Fire 2 - land in the circle, miss the disc

Fire 3 - don't take shot

 

You get 3 points (6 divided by 2)

 

Alternatively

 

Fire 1 - land in the circle, miss the disc

Fire 2 - land in the circle, miss the disc

Fire 3 - land in the circle, miss the disc

 

You get 2 points (6 divided by 3)

 

The aim of the competition is to test the ability to drop a round into the 'kill zone' repeatedly under field conditions and over three distances.

 

Stupid idea? too complicated? Right track but wrong method?

Edited October 8, 2016 by iano

[iano]

I'm assuming that is a no then...

[vampire]

Sounds good to me,scoring is confusing but then I am getting old.

[labstaff]

I like the idea but instead of set distances the targets could be at random lengths to test the shooters judgement of distance. I'd give it a go though.

[Scully]

Not something I'd participate in ( not because I think it's a bad format or anything like that, just simply because my target shooting days are mostly over ) but go for it. Anything which generates interest in shooting sports and potentially swells numbers would get the thumbs up from me. Good luck.

[iano]

Sounds good to me,scoring is confusing but then I am getting old.

 

socring has to be such that the incentive is there to take the shot, but a miss is punished

 

I like the idea but instead of set distances the targets could be at random lengths to test the shooters judgement of distance. I'd give it a go though.

 

That was actually my original idea, just not sure how it could be done on a range

[kyska]

Isn't there some legal issues purely target shooting with expanding ammunition?

 

My ticket allows 'zeroing', not sure it'd be completely compliant to do this.

[kennett]

I was just going to post the same thing. My certificate is for expanding ammo for vermin control and zeroing. You would have to get get a variation for target I'm assuming

[Vince Green]

This is fairly similar to some of the steel plate action .22 events that are shot currently although they are shot standing up. What you describe is in effect the field airgun competition but shot with a .22 instead of an air rifle.

 

there is no need to worry about hollow point ammunition. Solids fragment to dust when they hit a steel plate, the problem with both solid and HP is what happens when you miss, you need a good backstop.

There is one little problem though, not a big problem, but it would more or less have to be shot on an approved range and finding one may not be that easy.

[Vince Green]

I was just going to post the same thing. My certificate is for expanding ammo for vermin control and zeroing. You would have to get get a variation for target I'm assuming

Every year hundreds of people with stalking rifles shoot the BDS competitions and other sporting rifle competitions at Bisley using expanding ammo. A lot of calibres like .270 you can't get FMJ for even if you wanted to. I think the interpretation of zeroing is a bit open ended, its certainly not defined in writing anywhere that I know of. Most people just take it to mean range use.

[fortune]

This is fairly similar to some of the steel plate action .22 events that are shot currently although they are shot standing up. What you describe is in effect the field airgun competition but shot with a .22 instead of an air rifle.

 

there is no need to worry about hollow point ammunition. Solids fragment to dust when they hit a steel plate, the problem with both solid and HP is what happens when you miss, you need a good backstop.

There is one little problem though, not a big problem, but it would more or less have to be shot on an approved range and finding one may not be that easy.

 

Every year hundreds of people with stalking rifles shoot the BDS competitions and other sporting rifle competitions at Bisley using expanding ammo. A lot of calibres like .270 you can't get FMJ for even if you wanted to. I think the interpretation of zeroing is a bit open ended, its certainly not defined in writing anywhere that I know of. Most people just take it to mean range use.

I think that the above mainly covers it. To the OP. I think that your idea is ok and you have put a lot of thought into it BUT I think that all of this is already in operation. I went up to Bisley with a mate and there were loads of shooters on the next range shooting field style using crow and rabbit type targets. their guns were mainly modified 10/22s I think. they were shooting vast amounts of ammunition. As aready written this would have to be on approved ranges for a lot of reasons mainly insurance things and as far as I know the plod wont give hollow point for purely target shooting. this is something to do with part 5 ammunition. anyway there isn't much if any difference between solid 22 and hp 22. I've shot both on target cards and unless you are olympic standard then you aren't goint to notice. The setting up of this kind of thing is more agro than it's worth. if you want to do this type of shooting make some targets up and just go out in the fields and do it. If you want to compete and beat people there are shooting comps already set up.

PS we were on a range shooting running boar and deer.

PPS isnt this the same thing? http://www.thebfta.net/99-bfta-articles/24-what-is-field-target.html

Edited October 9, 2016 by fortune