Police protocol on theft for the in the knows?

[Westley]

The law I made by rational people who cannot comprehend that not all people are rational. As such there is no understanding by the law makers of a druggy's determination to get the next fix even if a rational person knew that there was a good chance of being caught. The desire for the next fix is so strong that they will rob their next door neighour or risk a town centre supermarket that is stuffed full of CCTV. And what do the law makers think is a suitable penalty? For them to be put on a drugs rehabilitation course rather then a term inside where the public would get respite from their antisocial and criminal behaviour. A ocal supermarket to where I used to live, a small Co-op lost £1,000 per week in meat alone and that was back in 2010. Who pays for that? You do.

 

Oh! Did I mention that the police authority get a financial kick back for every one that is referred to these courses? And the structure of the courses are such that the company providing them get bonuses if the offender completes the course. So they all complete the courses even if they don't.

 

It stinks!

 

Police Authority .................I think you mean 'The Crime Commissioner' and ALL of their assistants (most ex Police Authority) all raking in £85,000 plus, p.a. ?

[12gauge82]

The problem unfortunately lies with society, we are policed by consent, most individual police officers love nothing more than to remove criminals from the streets, the problem is the law makers and lefty brigade who all stick their Ore in, it's often the same people who get outraged about the rights of those breaking the law who then get annoyed when something happens to them personally and the police are left powerless to effectively deal with it.

[old man]

 

My cousin now retired told me that shoplifters, if caught are asked if they have the money to pay for the goods they thieved, if they had, they had to pay for them, if not a warning.

 

So at worst you have to pay if you get caught, if not another one under the belt & free to thieve another day....no wonder he left.

Probably not if they have any certificates to loose?

 

Sadly the system seems to support the ones with nothing to loose by penalising the ones that do?

 

Nothing to loose, nothing to take away as deterrent?

[m3vert]

Just seen this one as not been on in a while! Well done Mac on the initial detention. I notice how he didn't shout on his auld man for assistance in the chase, clearly knew you would be to slow at putting your smoking jacket and slippers on to be of any real help ;-) Seriously though, well done him!

 

Really poor outcome from the Police on this one. I see why they would allow him to go with a caution on the initial issue as you had not lost any items, but once you highlighted that you had lost items that you would then need to spend cash to replace, he should have been revisited and arrested surely? I would be tempted to raise a complaint on this and see if they change their decision??

Oh and clearly he must have been ******, no sober person would lift your boots without at least having surgical gloves on ;-)

[Bigbob]

I was talking to a police officer yesterday and he told me they wont attend burglars or car accidents unless somebody is trapped due to staff cuts

[Dougy]

I was talking to a police officer yesterday and he told me they wont attend burglars or car accidents unless somebody is trapped due to staff cuts

 

So a burglary in progress? Will that get a different response, I wonder.

[UKPoacher]

I was talking to a police officer yesterday and he told me they wont attend burglars or car accidents unless somebody is trapped due to staff cuts

 

Its not due to staff cuts. It is due to mismanagement. The way that incidents are graded means that where a theft has occurred and there is no threat to anyone's safety it will take a lower priority than one where someone has been threatened or one of the incident types classed as priorities such as racial and domestic violence.

 

So they won't come out to try and find evidence at your ten grand burglary but will send a double crewed car to take pointless statements because Dwayne's new partner has threatened to kill his ex partner on Facebook or Twitter. Or a Turkish kebab shop owner or Indian take away owner who has been called a "Black (insert appropriate swear word)" will get a visit but the British chip shop owner who has been called a "Fat (insert appropriate swear word)" won't. The time wasted in beat officers racing to jobs off their patch just to be able to record attending a priority incident within the 45 minutes allotted time is crazy. Just because it has been classed as a 'domestic' it has to be attended in 45 minutes from the call being made even though, as in one personal example, the actual incident being reported had taken place 3 weeks previously.

 

Nothing to do with staff cuts. Its down to government imposed response targets and mismanagement of resources by senior officers.

[old man]

Sadly, it's always the same, once a bias of any sort is introduced, something/someone else always suffers?

[Bigbob]

Your kidding i work in security two colleagues and myself had two guys that had stolen a ipad the smaller one still had it you could see it threw the poly bag he was carrying my control called 999 twice in the space of a hour the guys took off into a wood and we where told to leave it the police would be on there way . They turned up the next day and took the cctv off my camera and said the big guys known to us its a good job he was drunk our he would of knifed you what little respect i had for police scotland went out the window there and then

[del.gue]

 

Its not due to staff cuts. It is due to mismanagement. The way that incidents are graded means that where a theft has occurred and there is no threat to anyone's safety it will take a lower priority than one where someone has been threatened or one of the incident types classed as priorities such as racial and domestic violence.

 

So they won't come out to try and find evidence at your ten grand burglary but will send a double crewed car to take pointless statements because Dwayne's new partner has threatened to kill his ex partner on Facebook or Twitter. Or a Turkish kebab shop owner or Indian take away owner who has been called a "Black (insert appropriate swear word)" will get a visit but the British chip shop owner who has been called a "Fat (insert appropriate swear word)" won't. The time wasted in beat officers racing to jobs off their patch just to be able to record attending a priority incident within the 45 minutes allotted time is crazy. Just because it has been classed as a 'domestic' it has to be attended in 45 minutes from the call being made even though, as in one personal example, the actual incident being reported had taken place 3 weeks previously.

 

Nothing to do with staff cuts. Its down to government imposed response targets and mismanagement of resources by senior officers.

That is very true and im glad im out of it now. We went from 10 rural beat officers to 4 overnight. Then spent most of our time in the city dealing with drunken knobs while burglars took the p--- in the our beat areas.