Covert Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 So before i go for my shotgun certificate i thought i would invest in a gun safe , we live in a bungalow with concrete floors, my question is do i have to bolt it direct to the concrete or can it go on the carpet but obviously bolted to the concrete floor in 4 places ? Thanks for any advice Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Cant see a problem going on the carpet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Why risk damaging the carpet? Can you not just bolt it to the wall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covert Posted April 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Walls are made of compressed hay in slabs so no wooden batterns , plan is to lay it down on its back under the bed and bolt it to the concrete through the carpet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry136 Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Try finding the wooden uprights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covert Posted April 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 There are no wooden uprights matey it's just compressed hay all the way along . Believe me we tried to find any when we wanted to put a flat screen TV on the wall , ended up with a bracket hanging off the ceiling. ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covert Posted April 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 So do we think it will be ok to bolt it on its back under the bed through the carpet but into the concrete ? Thanks folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Yes, as long as its secured feo will be happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covert Posted April 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Thanks matey wanted to double check! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) How far beneath the concrete floor is the damp membrane? Edited April 17, 2017 by panoma1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 How far beneath the concrete floor is the damp membrane?And also is there underfloor heating too?How far beneath the concrete floor is the damp membrane?And also is there underfloor heating too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportingJohn Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 There's got to be timber somewhere. There's no way the roof sits on top of hay bails, compressed or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 What about using All-thread all the way through the hay walls anchored with metal plates on the other side......recessed into hay wall and plastered over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 The out side wall must be brick .put long bolts in and fix to a outside wall . Is it not breeze block on the inside at back of ioutsidewall .it must be .a single brick will not hold the roof up it must have breeze Block inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 I don't think screwing to wood is acceptable even if it was an option which it isn't as he has stated there isn't any. Nothing wrong with the plan the op has put forward. I am sure he would not have devised the plan if there was under floor heating or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 If you can livw with it under bed on concrete floor it will be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 I think you may have problems with condensation bolting directly onto concrete - I would put, say, a sheet of polystyrene or other insulation between the 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 He is putting it on top of carpet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 If going through carpet it may be worthwhile removing the areas of carpet that the bolts will pass through...using a circle cutter pf some sort...or very sharp craft knife. Will make it a lot easier to "make good" if the room layout changes or you come to move house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportingJohn Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 I don't think screwing to wood is acceptable even if it was an option which it isn't as he has stated there isn't any. Nothing wrong with the plan the op has put forward. I am sure he would not have devised the plan if there was under floor heating or whatever. Screwing in to wood is perfectly okay. It is what my FEO advised me to do. Just think logically, a coach bolt in to structural timber is going to be stronger than a rawl plug in a brick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 I stand corrected. I always thought it was not acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Your walls are made of stramit board.Its ok to fix the cabinet to the floor on its back,but remove carpet as it could/would increase chances of a gap for a crow bar to be jammed under cabinet. As said by others,ie electric floor will blow if there is one and watch out for buried pipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Screwing in to wood is perfectly okay. It is what my FEO advised me to do. Just think logically, a coach bolt in to structural timber is going to be stronger than a rawl plug in a brick. No one should be using a rawl plug anyway. They are ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Chemical anchors & threaded rod..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 i had my cabinet fixed above the skirting before as i didn't want to cut it, it wasn't a problem. lets face facts, in most cases if they come into your home and have five minutes with a four foot gorilla bar they will be away with the cabinet no matter what its fixed to or with. mine is in probably the best place its ever been as its difficult just to put guns away and was a nightmare to get in to fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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