defender Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 What kit is needed to reload and what kind of cost? What would the cost of each round be reloaded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) Basic Lee Loader would do (£35) Next step up would be a Lee Breech Lock Hand Press or a basic single stage press (£42.70), but to those you'd need to add a set of dies (carbide £37) Basic case prep bits around £15-£20 Powder measure (Lee Perfect Powder measure is very good, £27) or just use a plastic dipper Ideally a decent balance scales but you could get by with a digital for now. With the cheaper digital scales and small powder weights I'd throw 10 charges and weigh them all together then divide by 10 to get a more accurate weight. Rough cost per round using cast bullets, £18-£25/100 depending on what you use. Edited May 11, 2017 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 I have two lee pro 1000 s with all the bits and pieces . Left over from my pistol shooting days . These are the progressive presses that load a round at every pull of the handle .you can load 100 rounds in less than 10 minutes . You can have them both for £200 ,including the powder measures and a set of 38 special dies . Check on the net how much they are . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Just remember that 357 dies ONLY load 357,but 38 dies will do 38 & 357. Harners offer is excellent-i'd snap his arm off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) Typical cost per load primer 3.5p powder 3.5 grains bullseye 2p 158grn bullet 6p = 11.5p Edited May 11, 2017 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defender Posted May 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Thanks, all very interesting. Sadly it'll be a while before I can afford a reloading kit as I've just bought a new Henry and Norfolk is a 300 mile round trip approx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang bang birdy Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Typical cost per load primer 3.5p powder 3.5 grains bullseye 2p 158grn bullet 6p = 11.5p Exactly what I used to load. Good recipe for 25 yards that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 I have two lee pro 1000 s with all the bits and pieces . Left over from my pistol shooting days . These are the progressive presses that load a round at every pull of the handle .you can load 100 rounds in less than 10 minutes . You can have them both for £200 ,including the powder measures and a set of 38 special dies . Check on the net how much they are . Harnser after checking out these two presses I realise that they are the lee load master .which are the top of the range presses and now cost 360 pound each .there for if anybody is interested in them I would have to ask a little bit more money . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) Typical cost per load primer 3.5p powder 3.5 grains bullseye 2p 158grn bullet 6p = 11.5p My reloads use free lead, so drop the 6p from the above. Cast my own bullets to suit intended use, from a few 2nd hand bullet moulds.Also got a bullet swager but no dies!! As Phaedra says, get a Lee Loader. This is a modified die type system. No press needed, just a flat surface & a plastic mallet. Excellent for learning on or for small batches of ammunition. Being cheap doesn't mean poor quality = it held the World record for years for most accurate reloads. Even cheaper 2nd hand. Used to make M1 carbine ammo with one. The cost savings on reloads is only part of the picture. Convenience is a big issue esp if your local shop has limited or no stock. Casting makes even more sense = turn scrap into bullets = no supply chain & duty/vat/wages to be paid on bullets used. No postage. All the hardware has an initial purchase cost but lots around used, and it retains value well....if looked after & you buy the right brands. Check out some YouTube clips. Have fun Edited May 13, 2017 by saddler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defender Posted May 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 Lee loader looks Good for starters Not sure of the amount I'll use so I'm probably best starting small scale, though if the other loading kit above was closer I'd probably have had a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 If you're ever up in County Durham give me a shout and I'll show you the basic kit at work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 I think basic lee loader is a bit too slow, I started with one years ago but couldn't upgrade quick enough. They are good for c/f rifle calibres but 38/357 you want to load in hundreds not the odd box of 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 check out ba10 http://www.vectan.fr/UK/reloading-charges for 38spl and .357. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) check out ba10 http://www.vectan.fr/UK/reloading-charges for 38spl and .357. BA10 is a lovely powder, very similar to Vhit N310, not dissimilar to Bullseye. For carbines with the longer barrel I might be more inclined towards BA9 but I don't know anyone who sells Vectan powders these days. Last person I knew, I think was Peter Lawman. Edited May 16, 2017 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 BA10 is a lovely powder, very similar to Vhit N310, not dissimilar to Bullseye. For carbines with the longer barrel I might be more inclined towards BA9 but I don't know anyone who sells Vectan powders these days. Last person I knew, I think was Peter Lawman. yep its absolutely stunning. pops in a 12gauge, and is ever so slightly more efficient than bullseye. it is wuite possibly the finest powder i`ve ever used. i cross referenced alot to get ba10 in 12gauge running. ba10 is stunning. the price reflects that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 yep its absolutely stunning. pops in a 12gauge, and is ever so slightly more efficient than bullseye. it is wuite possibly the finest powder i`ve ever used. i cross referenced alot to get ba10 in 12gauge running. ba10 is stunning. the price reflects that too. Does anybody know who sells it in London area or near Bisley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 no, i think john at FES sells it. its a phenominal powder, i tested alot, i got 1000/ kg of powder in 12gauge, and thats 500+bar and 1300fps. that is outstanding. i also did a 24g load that is phenominal, that is just under 740bar its good for 28gram fibre subsonics, 21gram lead fibre loads. i`ve seen the peaks that come from the pressure barrel. and its just shy of stunning, i`ve never used a powder so fast, and really was to be messing with 21g #4s for kids. it peaks and is done and dusted before any other powder. now, because it peaks so sharp it can be variable, although it was just shy of stunning in the higher 740bar. the 28g subs are consistant when oting for a slightly quicker, than i actually published. at 13.2 grains in 12gauge just to up the pressure a tad and get a more usable shell thats low gas volume and is silent in moderated guns. roughshooter developed a 21g version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 FES are running it out now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simuk Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 no, i think john at FES sells it. its a phenominal powder, i tested alot, i got 1000/ kg of powder in 12gauge, and thats 500+bar and 1300fps. that is outstanding. i also did a 24g load that is phenominal, that is just under 740bar its good for 28gram fibre subsonics, 21gram lead fibre loads. i`ve seen the peaks that come from the pressure barrel. and its just shy of stunning, i`ve never used a powder so fast, and really was to be messing with 21g #4s for kids. it peaks and is done and dusted before any other powder. now, because it peaks so sharp it can be variable, although it was just shy of stunning in the higher 740bar. the 28g subs are consistant when oting for a slightly quicker, than i actually published. at 13.2 grains in 12gauge just to up the pressure a tad and get a more usable shell thats low gas volume and is silent in moderated guns. roughshooter developed a 21g version. Hi cookoff, you have me intrigued with the BA 10 information you have posted. Would it be cheeky of me to ask you to PM me some 12 gauge load data for BA 10? It is a powder i am easily able to obtain and if it's useable in small quantities then it may be a cheaper load for me instead of the AS i have been using. I use BA 9 for other reloading and i like the way it meters compared to the AS flakes, Thanks for your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 yeah, send me a pm requesting data. i keep track of the topics but some slip through.plastic or fibre? nb its not more economic, it is as economic at 15 grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagantino Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 The Lee Pro 1000 is ideal, I could not recommend the Lee Loadmaster. I sold mine to buy another Lee Pro 1000. It a hobby so enjoy. If you buy a Lee Loader you won't be long getting tired of it. Read and read some more before buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfiepoole Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 hi have you still got all the lee reloading equipment for sale, thanks alfiepoole after checking out these two presses I realise that they are the lee load master .which are the top of the range presses and now cost 360 pound each .there for if anybody is interested in them I would have to ask a little bit more money . Harnser I have two lee pro 1000 s with all the bits and pieces . Left over from my pistol shooting days . These are the progressive presses that load a round at every pull of the handle .you can load 100 rounds in less than 10 minutes . You can have them both for £200 ,including the powder measures and a set of 38 special dies . Check on the net how much they are .Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) [/url]">http://http://smg.photobucket.com/user/jonno357/media/2008_0515abc0003.jpg.html'> Edited August 5, 2017 by jonno 357 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 my old set up. results was amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 hi have you still got all the lee reloading equipment for sale, thanks alfiepoole Yes I still have the two presses and all the bits and pieces . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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