luckytrigger Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Had a voice mail on my phone after arriving home from work.. Turned out it was the landowner of my main shoot (1,000 acres) saying that he had been made an offer he couldnt refuse from a game shooting syndicate. As they want exclusive shooting rights they wont want me on the land.Really gutted. Looks like i will be doing the old door knocking routine soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Ask the farmer does he know of other land around the place that other poeple would let you shoot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 how long have you had the shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted June 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 how long have you had the shoot. A year and a half in total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Unfortunately that's the way it's going but you know the old saying...if you can't beat 'em ...join 'em! Round here there's idiots paying £10000 an acre of marshy bog just for flight ponds and being encouraged to do so by the land agents. I wonder why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradders Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I can sympathise with you, The syndicate I was a member of lost 900 acres after 6 years because the owners sold the farm and the new owners didnt want shooting on it. But i suspect they sold the rights via a sporting agency for much more than we were prepared to pay or could afford to pay. Good luck with looking for new permissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted June 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I can sympathise with you, The syndicate I was a member of lost 900 acres after 6 years because the owners sold the farm and the new owners didnt want shooting on it. But i suspect they sold the rights via a sporting agency for much more than we were prepared to pay or could afford to pay. Good luck with looking for new permissions. Thanks Bradders.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 The Farmer being able to put you in touch with another Landowner/Farmer, is your best and quickest bet. He must know most of the local ones. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 The Farmer being able to put you in touch with another Landowner/Farmer, is your best and quickest bet.He must know most of the local ones. Good luck. B) shame though but if the farmer was happy with your work, as I an sure he was he will happily point you in the right direction. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Have a word with your farmer and ask for the shoot captain or keeper-to-be 's phone number. If you play your cards right, explaining you have been on there for ages and do not have conflicting interests, you might be able to get some "vermin control" off the new sporting rights holders. If they can trust you, then you can be doing them a big service controlling the vermin and the likes, when they can't be there. You would also be a hand extra pair of eyes for protecting the old game there, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 have a word with the farmer see if he can put a word in for you, and im with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted June 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Have a word with your farmer and ask for the shoot captain or keeper-to-be 's phone number. If you play your cards right, explaining you have been on there for ages and do not have conflicting interests, you might be able to get some "vermin control" off the new sporting rights holders. If they can trust you, then you can be doing them a big service controlling the vermin and the likes, when they can't be there. You would also be a hand extra pair of eyes for protecting the old game there, too. Going to do that today..Nothing to lose.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 The other thing I would add to the above, you could also ask him for a letter of reference, as I presume he was happy with your service etc.? That way when you do knock on doors you have a little more leverage. Best of luck, BTW if you need I have a permission document(word doc.) if it is of any use give me a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 keep your chin up as no doubt you will com across more land.keep at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted June 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Thanks for all the advice/kind words.. What a top forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 How did it all go luckytrigger, did you strike lucky (pun intended)? Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted June 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 How did it all go luckytrigger, did you strike lucky (pun intended)? Dan Hi Dan, i eventually managed to get the shoot owners number on the land i have just 'lost' and had a chat with him. Turns out he is happy for me to continue to control the vermin on the shoot and might have some more land for me to help out on as he runs two or three other shoots. I offered to help in any way i can around the shoot:yes: Im meeting up with him in the next week or two.. So really its a good end to what was initially a bad situation and i should even come away with some more land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradders Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Have a word with your farmer and ask for the shoot captain or keeper-to-be 's phone number. If you play your cards right, explaining you have been on there for ages and do not have conflicting interests, you might be able to get some "vermin control" off the new sporting rights holders. If they can trust you, then you can be doing them a big service controlling the vermin and the likes, when they can't be there. You would also be a hand extra pair of eyes for protecting the old game there, too. Look's like Pin's advice paid off....... Good luck and happy hunting...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Great news, as my old man says "shy bairns get nowt" Well done, and more land coming, result! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 well done, Game syndicates can be a pain in the backside. I have regular run ins with the guy who runs the syndicate on my main shoot. Basically he wants to control all the shooting and is the kind of guy who would tell you there were loads of pigeons in a certain spot when he knows full well you would see nothing He hates us rabbit shooting even though we do most of it out of the game season and stay well away from woods when birds are down. But I have the advantage most of my shooting is done with the landowners son who is a mate. The guy has got upset on a couple ofoccasions and had a bleat to the landowner who has told him basically he rents the Game shooting only not vermin control. The other side issue is the guy knows as soon as the son takes over the farm full time that he will be on his bike. It doesn't make for the best atmosphere but on the other hand the vermin is what affects the farms profits so has to be kept on top of, funniest bit is the farm retains 1 gun in the syndicate as part of the deal and I always get given a couple of days because of the vermin control and that really gets up the keepers nose So just keep in with the landowner and keep the rabbit numbers down but don't do it too well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davo Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Good result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted June 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Thanks for everybodys advice! Top forum as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 This is PW at it's best. Someone has a problem and there is no shortage of good advice. All given freely and willingly. Well done to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Good stuff LT and Alex I know what you mean about being sweet with the landowners! I had a couple of dirty looks initally from the two lads that shoot on the land I shoot, me being new and an air rifle shooter. Then when they came by after an days shooting to see the farmer and saw me with all the family (my partner is his niece) they were very friendly I dont have any issues with them and as far as I am concerned they do me a favour as I don't have a FAC or SGC so have issues making a dent on pigeons. However, if they started complaining and bleating about me they wouldn't get the best of responses from the farmer and his family! Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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