reggiegun Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Why is powder so hard to get hold off. Need some H4350. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Because unobtainium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Why is powder so hard to get hold off. Need some H4350. Not hard to get if you have a key. The key to my cupboard that is. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted August 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 I have some I have some How much for tub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted August 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 My rfd says h4350 and varget being banned under health and safety reasons, is that true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenergp Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Bushwear have varget in stock if thats any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 I have Varget but it does come and go supply wise, changed both 308 and 223 to viht 140 with excellent results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 My rfd says h4350 and varget being banned under health and safety reasons, is that true Which RFD is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 My rfd says h4350 and varget being banned under health and safety reasons, is that trueApparently it's highly flammable. They have figured out that it's carcinogenic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 New EU legislation, here's an excellent post by Laurie Holland taken from another forum. " 'REACH' - Regulation (EC) 1907/2006 concerning the Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation, and restriction of CHemicals A 10 year old EU programme that sees final and full implementation next year and which affects any chemicals, or any product containing chemicals used in any field for any purpose. So it affects anything and everything that you use from washing up liquid to herbicides and insecticides, rat poisons, cleaning agents, .... etc, etc. The entire supply chain is affected from importer / manufacturer through trade and retail distribution chains up to sale to the final consumer. Not just the finished product examined, but each and every ingredient. If any has any chemicals in the mix for which past studies have shown any health or environmental risks, the product has to be reformulated to replace them with approved ingredients or else withdrawn. To manufacture or import any non-REACH listed and approved substance will be an offence in EU law which in turn means in all member states' domestic laws. All propellants manufactured in the EU and associated states are now REACH compliant - so Bofors, Vihtavuori, Vectan, Reload Swiss, PB Clermont (Ramshot), Explosia / Lovex. All Alliant ATK rifle powders currently imported to Europe are actually of European origin and OK, ie the Reloder series. General Dynamics Canada which makes IMR powders has introduced five new 'green' pistol / revolver powders and four new ('Enduron') rifle powders. These are all made to the latest environmental safety standards, so will almost certainly be approved. The rest? We'll have to wait and see as announcements are made as to what is in and what is out. So, anybody loading the 6.5 Creedmoor (or anything else) with Viht or RS products can continue to do without worries." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 New EU legislation, here's an excellent post by Laurie Holland taken from another forum. 'REACH' - Regulation (EC) 1907/2006 concerning the Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation, and restriction of CHemicals A 10 year old EU programme that sees final and full implementation next year and which affects any chemicals, or any product containing chemicals used in any field for any purpose. So it affects anything and everything that you use from washing up liquid to herbicides and insecticides, rat poisons, cleaning agents, .... etc, etc. The entire supply chain is affected from importer / manufacturer through trade and retail distribution chains up to sale to the final consumer. Not just the finished product examined, but each and every ingredient. If any has any chemicals in the mix for which past studies have shown any health or environmental risks, the product has to be reformulated to replace them with approved ingredients or else withdrawn. To manufacture or import any non-REACH listed and approved substance will be an offence in EU law which in turn means in all member states' domestic laws. ....so after Brexit it'll be available again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) The cost of transportation is crippling and there are too many different types of powder on the market for dealers, or importers. to be able to stock a representative range without tying up too much money in what is a slow moving product these days. What my preferred dealer does is gets in a big delivery of the popular runners then sends out hundreds of emails/ texts to customers on his list saying "Ive got X, Y and Z better get down here before its gone, text before you come to reserve" You can also pre order out of stock items with him so its already earmarked for you when he orders. Handy for the less than popular powders. He encourages customers to order and enquire by text and email so he isn't constantly bombarded with phone calls when he is busy in the shop. He does the same with ammo now. Its about applying modern marketing techniques, some shops are useless, never answer the phone, never reply to emails, no wonder the situation is so chaotic Edited August 3, 2017 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted August 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Reggie, it's not what you know, it's who you know I now know why I cant get any H4350, some bumbercolt has bought it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 ....so after Brexit it'll be available again? Isn't it time you learned how to quote a post without including all of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 I now know why I cant get any H4350, some bumbercolt has bought it all Who I've only got 8 lb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted August 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Who I've only got 8 lb Someone got a lot more than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 I now know why I cant get any H4350, some bumbercolt has bought it all Who I've only got 8 lb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 It won't last that long. ;-) 12 months or less and I'm looking at a 're barrel. So really makes no odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 New EU legislation, here's an excellent post by Laurie Holland taken from another forum. " 'REACH' - Regulation (EC) 1907/2006 concerning the Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation, and restriction of CHemicals A 10 year old EU programme that sees final and full implementation next year and which affects any chemicals, or any product containing chemicals used in any field for any purpose. So it affects anything and everything that you use from washing up liquid to herbicides and insecticides, rat poisons, cleaning agents, .... etc, etc. The entire supply chain is affected from importer / manufacturer through trade and retail distribution chains up to sale to the final consumer. Not just the finished product examined, but each and every ingredient. If any has any chemicals in the mix for which past studies have shown any health or environmental risks, the product has to be reformulated to replace them with approved ingredients or else withdrawn. To manufacture or import any non-REACH listed and approved substance will be an offence in EU law which in turn means in all member states' domestic laws. All propellants manufactured in the EU and associated states are now REACH compliant - so Bofors, Vihtavuori, Vectan, Reload Swiss, PB Clermont (Ramshot), Explosia / Lovex. All Alliant ATK rifle powders currently imported to Europe are actually of European origin and OK, ie the Reloder series. General Dynamics Canada which makes IMR powders has introduced five new 'green' pistol / revolver powders and four new ('Enduron') rifle powders. These are all made to the latest environmental safety standards, so will almost certainly be approved. The rest? We'll have to wait and see as announcements are made as to what is in and what is out. So, anybody loading the 6.5 Creedmoor (or anything else) with Viht or RS products can continue to do without worries." Another bloody good reason to be leaving the EU ! What a load of codswallop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy1950 Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Considering Ramshot powders are made in Belgium, they haven't been available in the UK for the last 12 months plus. Typically it is sent in bulk to Montana in the good old US of A for repackaging and then re export, except they have kept it all. All my emails to Montana have been ignored as to when it is going to be available again here. Maybe this is why they hav not been open about the others being carcinogenic ,wanting rid of dodgy powders? Several of my shooting pals and I worked up loads for Ramshot TAC, Exterminator and Hunter powders for all our rifles and now are switching to Vit powder, as at least that is made in the EU and therefore available. I also note that Hodgdon Varget is manufactured in Australia before being bulk shipped to the U S of A for redistribution, how many other powders do they supply that fail to meet the REACH chemical formulation regulations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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