walshie Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 There's been talk about whether animals are put off by the red glow on the older trail cams and I think there's something to it. We had an old ewe commit suicide a couple of weeks ago, but it was in the top field and with all the rain and mud it was impossible to drag the carcass out or get a quad up there. I thought I'd let nature take it's course. I set a trail cam right next to the sheep to see what time the foxes came and give me an idea for lambing time roughly how many there were. The first week, nothing. I put it down to the cold and assumed foxes didn't like their meat frozen. Next week, nothing except a very fleeting glimpse of a fox having a look round. The sheep was untouched. A few days ago I brought the camera in to look at the pics and couldn't be bothered to take it all the way back so there has been no camera there since Wednesday. I've just been up there and the sheep is now a head, a ribcage, 2 feet and some wool. I wonder if it was the IR lights or coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, walshie said: There's been talk about whether animals are put off by the red glow on the older trail cams and I think there's something to it. We had an old ewe commit suicide a couple of weeks ago, but it was in the top field and with all the rain and mud it was impossible to drag the carcass out or get a quad up there. I thought I'd let nature take it's course. I set a trail cam right next to the sheep to see what time the foxes came and give me an idea for lambing time roughly how many there were. The first week, nothing. I put it down to the cold and assumed foxes didn't like their meat frozen. Next week, nothing except a very fleeting glimpse of a fox having a look round. The sheep was untouched. A few days ago I brought the camera in to look at the pics and couldn't be bothered to take it all the way back so there has been no camera there since Wednesday. I've just been up there and the sheep is now a head, a ribcage, 2 feet and some wool. I wonder if it was the IR lights or coincidence? I would think Coincedence. Plus, on most trailcams, the Infrared light is usually invisible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Interesting. I bait continuously here and often many weeks can go by before a carcass is touched and then other times the opposite. I have a permanent trail cam set up too andthe light is visible in use at such close range. I have a very powerful IR lamp for my NV, but to date apart from rabbits looking in my direction, it's not had a noticeable impact. What i do notice is that some bait does not seem to draw them in as well as others. A couple of weeks ago I put out some cockrels they were gone in a night. I have done nothing with the foxes but they have ignored a rabbit and squirrel for at least a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted March 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 The beam itself is invisible on mine, but as I said, it's quite old now and you can see the red glow from the lamps round the lens. Only faint, but even I can see them. I know foxes prefer their bait a bit stinky, so maybe it was just the timescale involved. 3 nights from whole sheep to skellington would suggest there's a few critters around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Looks like you need to sit out I hope they were coming at a convenient time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted March 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, oowee said: Looks like you need to sit out I hope they were coming at a convenient time. The one pic I got of the fox having a look was about 10.00p.m. Hopefully the other action was a similar time. I was going to take the truck up there when the ground dries out a bit and sit and wait Edited March 10, 2018 by walshie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racing snake Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Was out shooting one night, thermal spotting and IR on top of the Drone, also pretty much a full moon. Spotted a fox with the thermal about 250 yards away just sitting slightly down from a wood. Switched over to the Drone, switched it on but didn't switch the IR on, and could clearly see the fox looking to my right at some moorhens making a bit of a noise. Flicked the IR and it instantly looked straight at me. I'm not convinced foxes can't see IR beams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 As above a friend who is on night vision gear said a while ago not as many foxes getting away but those that are, are very well educated and he has had same happen as RS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 hello, maybe they just see the red glow with a I/R torch, ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racing snake Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 52 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, maybe they just see the red glow with a I/R torch, ? No, I don't think it was that. It was 250 yards away and looking in a different direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted March 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 I'm going to have to go old school then to shoot these foxes. Only a regular lamp and the smell of mulligatawny soup wafting out the truck window to put them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 32 minutes ago, walshie said: I'm going to have to go old school then to shoot these foxes. Only a regular lamp and the smell of mulligatawny soup wafting out the truck window to put them off. Funny, I have noticed with fox, cats and rats that there looking at the camera when I've got pics, my camera is very close to where I put the squirrels and I've wondered if they can see the flash? Or if they hear something as the picture is taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strongman Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 I’ve had a fox turn, look straight at me then shy away when lit up with IR. I got him the next night in a similar area but made sure my torch was dimmed down, which didn’t seem to spook him. Rabbits round here seem to stand on their hind legs when shone with IR so I am convinced that animals can see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmy1100 Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Watched video on this and it’s to do with the wavelengths some animals can see ir light at think it was 850 but foxes wasn’t bothered by it at 940 think it was vid was on the tube showed laser it aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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