figgy Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Any of the Pigeon watch reloaders use a OMV tripple drill press with a spinner and wad slitter and another attachment? I need to buy a spinner gaep for 12 gauge but don't know which number to buy, on looking seen this press and it looks very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 4 hours ago, figgy said: Any of the Pigeon watch reloaders use a OMV tripple drill press with a spinner and wad slitter and another attachment? I need to buy a spinner gaep for 12 gauge but don't know which number to buy, on looking seen this press and it looks very useful. Can't help on the drill press thing but when I phoned gaep reloading they recommended the BN2, I got one and it works a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Thanks, looking and seeing four numbered spinners with no idea which one does what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 All I know is BN1-4 Is the taper depth, with 4 being the deepest, gaep reloading have a different site called 'wingslocked', the chap I spoke to was very helpful and said the BN2 was a big seller when reloading steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) I have been on the wingslocked site and noticed the price difference to the gaep reloading site. Here is the info from the site on the numbers, thought steel powders were slow burning suiting a number 4? Gaep BN steel crimp finishers for taper finishing case/hull mouths. Avialable .410/28ga/20ga/16ga/12ga/10ga BN1 fast burn rate powder BN2 fast/medium burn rate powder BN3 medium/slow burn rate powder BN4 slow burn rate powder Edited April 5, 2018 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 48 minutes ago, figgy said: I have been on the wingslocked site and noticed the price difference to the gaep reloading site. Here is the info from the site on the numbers, thought steel powders were slow burning suiting a number 4? Gaep BN steel crimp finishers for taper finishing case/hull mouths. Avialable .410/28ga/20ga/16ga/12ga/10ga BN1 fast burn rate powder BN2 fast/medium burn rate powder BN3 medium/slow burn rate powder BN4 slow burn rate powder I agree that's what i had read, but the chap said a BN2 was good for steel, also UK Fowler on here said he used a BN2 and his cartridges look superb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 That's Good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay404 Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 I use a BN2 to tidy up my final crimp . Makes them round again only a quick spin with barley any pressure. Great tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 OMV tools are great quality tool; with C&P are probably the best in the market and well above GAEP. As for the spinner: each has it's own quality and been built for a reason (not just for the sake of having many) ; generally speaking the N2 is the most used as it's a general purpose, all rounder which produces lovely finishing. Below the specs of each spinner: N1: slow burning powders - say for instance you have a load which doesn’t burn clean or is under pressured for the pellets load: the sharp slim edge increases the extraction load helping the powder burning properly and generating the ‘required pressure’. N2: all-rounder - Generally speaking, if the shells are balanced, the N2 will suit all your needs; in fact, apart from some exceptions, they are standard fitted on all factories reloading machinery from Fiocchi to B&P. N3: Cardboard hulls N4-N5: magnum loads - in my view these are only needed for those shells where you have already a high pressure level and don’t need the crimp to help the powder burning or the gases to generate extra pressure as this is already happening through the balance of components. cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 OMV N2 it is then. Now where to buy in uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakapiken Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Buy direct. Send A Mail to omv-metal@libero.it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Cheers i will drop them a email, I was going to order one from fes Kent but no option to buy on the website. Must be phone orders only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 siarm do omv rto and crimp finishers very good to deal with as well as john @ Folkestone engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Well today I ordered the OMV smart mini press plus with three stations and the N2 bobbin. when I get chance to set it up and use it I’ll report back. The videos of it in use look impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenergp Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 I was looking at the OMV videos last night, they look pretty good, i would be interested to know the cost of the one you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 i gots me a n4. is fa fanatic piece of kilt. also continental, N4-N5: magnum loads - in my view these are only needed for those shells where you have already a high pressure level and don’t need the crimp to help the powder burning or the gases to generate extra pressure as this is already happening through the balance of components. thats a great passage. most of my loads are like this, speed is often over rated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 To be honest i asked for a N2 but the kit looks like it has a spinner that's different to the usual bobbins, as it looks tapered outside. Link http://www.omv.it/en/smart/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) Seen a weird type of loading press on the omv site with a soldering iron attachment that melts the pre-crimp end.Looks to be a way to get more shot in a cart without increasing shot cart length. Link and video http://www.omv.it/chiusura-pg/ Edited April 11, 2018 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketestace Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Figgy Sorry im a tad late in on this post, but, If you are ever near my neck of the woods, feel free to call in...... OMV and other presses to play with, but be warned.... The coffee is strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, biketestace said: Figgy Sorry im a tad late in on this post, but, If you are ever near my neck of the woods, feel free to call in...... OMV and other presses to play with, but be warned.... The coffee is strong You got me at the coffee, if the spoon stands up its strong enough. Which OMV press do you have and how do you find it? Edited April 12, 2018 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 On 04/04/2018 at 22:00, Ttfjlc said: All I know is BN1-4 Is the taper depth, with 4 being the deepest, gaep reloading have a different site called 'wingslocked', the chap I spoke to was very helpful and said the BN2 was a big seller when reloading steel. Kev know his stuff, I don't think he would "put you wrong" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavey250 Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Got the OMV Simply press and there resizing and priming machine. Brilliant bit of kit. The spinner that came with the press will close a six star crimp or do a roll crimp equally as good. Just bought the drill press for the wad cutter but not used it yet. Bought direct from Italy from OMV just email them they are very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 That’s what I did, only I never bothered with the wad slitter. I will make one out of dowel and Stanley or craft knife blades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 3 hours ago, figgy said: That’s what I did, only I never bothered with the wad slitter. I will make one out of dowel and Stanley or craft knife blades. Cheaper and works great; made mine almost a decade ago and still going strong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) On 11/04/2018 at 13:03, figgy said: Seen a weird type of loading press on the omv site with a soldering iron attachment that melts the pre-crimp end.Looks to be a way to get more shot in a cart without increasing shot cart length. Link and video http://www.omv.it/chiusura-pg/ That'll be the Paci closure. Very useful crimp as increases the internal volume and drops the pressure quite dramatically without affecting speed too mych. I know Mr G Paci personally and he was one of the first private owners of a proofing barrel and did quite a lot of researches for the homeloaders. This is not his only invention, amongst others he also revised and improved the Greener theory and also proofed the duplex theory (with 2 different sizes not mixed but perfectly separated) or the 100+ mt shells. Originally used in .410 or small gauges is now getting used for non toxic as allows bigger loads to go faster without having to deal with great pressure spikes. Once I got my head round steel and nn toxic in general I shall get one of these... Cook...I am sure you'll have lots of fun trying new assets with this one ... Edited April 15, 2018 by Continental Shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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