Gordon R Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 What area are you in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotkam Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 On 23/09/2021 at 13:02, MitchSpartan said: Hello folks. Just been given my first shotgun by my dad and it's a Winchester 101 XTR diamond grade sporter. Butt pad is **** so was looking at replacements and to take some of the recoil away. Saw the Isis green pad but the green won't look right on the 101. I can't do any of the grind to fit stuff as have no tools, nearest gunsmith charged my dad £150 for some new screws in the stock and a jammed ejector pad on his Baikal this week so can imagine how much they would want for butt pad replacement! I've been shooting since about the age of 5 and without a doubt, nothing comes close to the Green Isis X Pad. Buy the left or right handed version to suit which shoulder you shoot from. Don't hesitate, buy it ! The green you can black with permanent marker supplied. Give the man a call as he is most generous with his time and a true gent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchSpartan Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 24/09/2021 at 20:50, Shotkam said: I've been shooting since about the age of 5 and without a doubt, nothing comes close to the Green Isis X Pad. Buy the left or right handed version to suit which shoulder you shoot from. Don't hesitate, buy it ! The green you can black with permanent marker supplied. Give the man a call as he is most generous with his time and a true gent. Thanks Shotkam. I will do that tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchSpartan Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 So spoke to Isis about the green pads. They said they are concerned that the curve on my original butt plate might be difficult and would need to be flattened off by gunsmith. Also the screws in my butt plate are not the same (see 2nd pic for location) as the Isis so would need new holes drilled in. Not sure if I can do it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotkam Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, MitchSpartan said: So spoke to Isis about the green pads. They said they are concerned that the curve on my original butt plate might be difficult and would need to be flattened off by gunsmith. Also the screws in my butt plate are not the same (see 2nd pic for location) as the Isis so would need new holes drilled in. Not sure if I can do it myself. If you have or can borrow a belt sander yes, providing you are a practical person with skill in your hands ! Remove butt plate and put straight edge across from heel to toe, measure gap at largest point. E.g. 10mm. Then divide by 2 and with a thin black Biro mark 5mm from heel towards action and the same at the toe. Put a wrap of pvc insulation tape around the stock so it aligns with both marks to act as a guide when sanding. Go steady !!! - especially when approaching tape. I recommend you go online to learn how to install a grind to fit recoil pad. Extreme care needed and be sure to protect the complete stock with plastic and tape. If not sure of your capabilities take to a recommended gunsmith, especially if it's a really decent gun. Good fortune to you. Hold sander upside down in workmate or similar with 60 - 80 grit fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchSpartan Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 So spoke to Davehe said the butt would need to be flattened off but I have no gunsmiths apart from Wiseman and they quoted me £200 today!!! It's due to the curve of the plate so aside from taking the stock off and sending it to Dave I'm a bit stuck as I don't have belt sander etc. My little Dremel would do the job or I'd end up with 2 barrels on a toothpick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchSpartan Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 24/09/2021 at 17:14, Gordon R said: What area are you in? Stafford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 I know of someone in the north west. but not in your area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Mid Counties Blacking at Lichfield. Speak to Darren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchSpartan Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, London Best said: Mid Counties Blacking at Lichfield. Speak to Darren. Thanks for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Is it actually curved or just camera angle. Looks flat to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchSpartan Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Is it actually curved or just camera angle. Looks flat to me. Yes curved like this one and screw at top is pretty high up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Must be my eyesight - still looks flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchSpartan Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Just now, Gordon R said: Must be my eyesight - still looks flat. I'm now doubting myself loool. I will try and take the plate off and have a proper look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Just done Google images - every single Winchester 101 stock (which yours is) - all flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, MitchSpartan said: I'm now doubting myself loool. I will try and take the plate off and have a proper look. Any chance that you might have a 12" rule in the house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchSpartan Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Any chance that you might have a 12" rule in the house? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Check the straightness of the end of the stock where the but pad fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchSpartan Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 34 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Check the straightness of the end of the stock where the but pad fits. I'm gonna do that tomorrow. Will open up the safe and try to take butt plate off, hopefully the screws play nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 Just lay the ruler across the end of the stock where the butt pad is joined on, you don't need to take the pad off at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 21/06/2018 at 06:54, JDog said: No I decided against it and I am now looking for an identical Miroku 6000 to replace my dilapidated one. Hello, if you know the model and style of stock I will keep a look out 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 That should be and looks to be a straight butt it’s just the butt plate has a the curve. As others have said simple remove the butt plate and check it with a steel rule or other straight edge. That’s then a straight forward installation of a grind to fit pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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