Doggone Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Can anyone help, I've seen advertised somewhere a weatherproof camera that takes pictures when the PIR is triggered, or it could have been an article in the shooting press. I just need to identify the **** who is nicking or releasing my call birds. I'm sure it's someone just trying to wind me up, because they carefully replace the catch after releasing the bird. Thanks Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/template...entId=cat602006 But will they nick the camera as well? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rabgoat Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 your gonna have to sit up and watch out for them and catch them at it,scare the **** out of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Couldn't get away with shooting them I supose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 I'm all for the idea of waiting for the scrote in camo and giving him/her an important lesson in why it's wrong to tamper with other peoples property. :blink: Do you suffer from these attacks at a rougly specific time? If it is happening all hours my money is on the fact it's someone local to the trap. Why waste your money on a camera just so you can see their face? :blink: FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestbry Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 u are looking for a Stealth camera ? google it Bry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 what about them things that fire a empty cartridge they are cheep enough to scare the **** out of him. beware of confronting said person a couple of my mates done this and nearly ended up on a kidnapping charge :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgunners Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Can anyone help, I've seen advertised somewhere a weatherproof camera that takes pictures when the PIR is triggered, or it could have been an article in the shooting press. I just need to identify the **** who is nicking or releasing my call birds. I'm sure it's someone just trying to wind me up, because they carefully replace the catch after releasing the bird. ThanksAndy We had a similar problem with snares. We would go right round the field setting snares on the fencing and next day all that was left was the string. It happened 3 or 4 times and lost 50 snares(ain't cheap) In the end I wired them all up to the cattle wire and sat out that night and caught the little **** red-handed jumping around the field. It was a do-gooder neighbour and I told him to go forth and multiply and if he came over again the next voltage would leave him as a pile of ashes. Didn't see him again. Dave k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 **** mouse traps? im guessing he is doing it in the dark put tar paint or something really nasty over the cage, or paint a trained vicious bird to look like a magpie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Paint bomb :blink: Better yet that inky stuff shops use for clothes theives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggone Posted July 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 I'm all for the idea of waiting for the scrote in camo and giving him/her an important lesson in why it's wrong to tamper with other peoples property. :blink: Do you suffer from these attacks at a rougly specific time? If it is happening all hours my money is on the fact it's someone local to the trap. Why waste your money on a camera just so you can see their face? :blink: FM Unfortunately the public or should I say course anglers have access to the site during the day. It is a magnet to magpies and and other corvids and I trap on the site all year, had 78 magpies since first sept last year. The traps get interfered with on an irregular basis, but most annoying when I've been advised that I've got a couple in one trap in the morning, and when I arrive at night both the trapped birds and the call bird are gone. It makes them very difficult to catch a second time, we usually get them by changing from top to side entry, but it all takes valuable time and diesel. We're having 300 poults in august and I want to get it sorted before they arrive or I'll have to spend a lot of time watching, and I'm too old really for unarmed combat. We have a suspicion of who the culprit is, just need a bit of proof, I'd hate to take action against the wrong person. I've been given an ad for a 79 quid digital camera which I think I'll try, just hope they don't nick that as well, or it will be war. Thanks everyone for the replies, I'll let you know how it works out. Andy (http://www.woodlandorganics.com/stealthcam/index.asp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBill Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Alarm mine- uses to 12 bore blanks (or cheaper still emptied game carts) and it's legal as it's not designed to injure. http://www.outdoorsman.co.uk/index1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr lee Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Looks like a long day sat out waiting mate. Camo gear and in the bushes. As you say, it will be some local neighbour who doesn't understand WHY the traps are there or what impact the corvids have on farming if left untouched. Seriously annoys the hell out of me when 'uneducated' to$$ers start to rattle off about how it's 'cruel' and 'unfair'. I had to try explain why we get shut of rabbits on one farm to some office dweller who thought we were 'wanna be Rambo's shooting poor little rabbits...' :blink: Good luck in finding out who it is mate. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 BASC have signs that state the cages are legal and that tampering with them is illegal, I think they are on their site and downloadable and you are, of course, a member aren`t you ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Unfortunately the public or should I say course anglers have access to the site during the day. It is a magnet to magpies and and other corvids and I trap on the site all year, had 78 magpies since first sept last year. The traps get interfered with on an irregular basis, but most annoying when I've been advised that I've got a couple in one trap in the morning, and when I arrive at night both the trapped birds and the call bird are gone. It makes them very difficult to catch a second time, we usually get them by changing from top to side entry, but it all takes valuable time and diesel. We're having 300 poults in august and I want to get it sorted before they arrive or I'll have to spend a lot of time watching, and I'm too old really for unarmed combat. We have a suspicion of who the culprit is, just need a bit of proof, I'd hate to take action against the wrong person. I've been given an ad for a 79 quid digital camera which I think I'll try, just hope they don't nick that as well, or it will be war. Thanks everyone for the replies, I'll let you know how it works out. Andy (http://www.woodlandorganics.com/stealthcam/index.asp) just had a look at this stealth cam. It is not infra red. it uses a flash. so i am sure that if someone is nicking your birds dont you think that they would find out were that flash came from and nick your £79 stealth cam along with the evidence. i can assure you that if it was me nicking your birds that i would also have the one think that could incriminate me. couldnt you just move the trap closer to your poults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggone Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 BASC have signs that state the cages are legal and that tampering with them is illegal, I think they are on their site and downloadable and you are, of course, a member aren`t you ?? for as long as I can remember, no. 13387243 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggone Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 [/Quote Dougy] just had a look at this stealth cam. It is not infra red. it uses a flash. so i am sure that if someone is nicking your birds dont you think that they would find out were that flash came from and nick your £79 stealth cam along with the evidence. i can assure you that if it was me nicking your birds that i would also have the one think that could incriminate me. couldnt you just move the trap closer to your poults. They don't dissappear at night, only when the anglers are on the site, 8am-6pm, I'd worked out the flash thing, I usually run 3 traps on the site and I place them where they're going to catch corvids, out of sight of the anglers, but can easily be found if you're looking for them. How would putting the trap closer to the release pen help? The release pen, lakes, traps and the owners house are all contained on about 50 acres with a locked gate at night, the shoot which has four pieces of cover extends to about 400 acres with very limited access. I'm sure it's just some clever assed angler taking the pee. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 How would putting the trap closer to the release pen help? Not knowing the exact location of the traps pens ect, i wouldnt be sure it would help, true. Just had the idea you could move the traps so they could not be found. But obviously not. And i did say that "if it was me" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Do those cameras make a noise? The flash would be a problem alright. We had a bit of trouble around the house a good few years back, I camoflaged a security camera in a geranium Worked a treat, even I couldn't spot it in the window and I knew where the damn thing was. Caught the sobs in the act too :unsure: Perhaps, depending on the foliage this could be an option if you decide to get a camera, dig it in under a bush or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggone Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Do those cameras make a noise? The flash would be a problem alright. We had a bit of trouble around the house a good few years back, I camoflaged a security camera in a geranium Worked a treat, even I couldn't spot it in the window and I knew where the damn thing was. Caught the sobs in the act too :unsure: Perhaps, depending on the foliage this could be an option if you decide to get a camera, dig it in under a bush or something. It's going out of reach in the side of a bale stack, but keep it to yourself. They are supposed to be silent in operation, not like mobile phone cameras that do a recorded artificial shutter noise. I'll aim it just to get the top of the trap in so the bird doesn't set it off. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggone Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 How would putting the trap closer to the release pen help? Not knowing the exact location of the traps pens ect, i wouldnt be sure it would help, true. Just had the idea you could move the traps so they could not be found. But obviously not. And i did say that "if it was me" Sorry didn't mean it to sound like I was having a go at you Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 ok no offence taken :unsure: just wouldn't want you to go and spend £79 and get it nicked. just rub salt in the wound that would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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