washerboy Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Too be different I'm interested in buying a Hw97 in. 20 , I've shot a rapid in this calibre and was impressed. Am I wasting my time and should I stick to the trusted. 177 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 got to be worth a go, plenty of folk like the calibre especially in FAC, if you don't try it........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 hello, there are not so much in the way of .20 pellets like 22 and 177 but enough to find one to suite a HW 97 barrel, i bought a cheap pump up in .20 and did kill rats well, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 i currently own and shoot a hw95 in .20 cal and in pcp i have a daystate huntsman in .20 i use H&N FTT pellets in both airguns both very accurate and hard hitting, the .20 pcp is the most used of my sub12fpe airguns for hunting. atb brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accuspell Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 I have been using .20 since 1994. I have a break barrel Theoben. It is a hybrid of the Fenman (stock) and Taunus (barrel and action - although the action is common across the entire range). The Taunus was offered with a dedicated sporter stock, I wanted the ambidextrous stock of the Fenman so I can shoot off both shoulders. The longer barrel of the Taunus gives a smoother shot cycle with the smaller pellet. I still have the rifle and use it fairly frequently, although my .20 Rapid, also a 1994 purchase, is my main tool. There are plenty of detractors of the 5mm calibre and they are always vociferous, many of them have little experience of the calibre and the limited number of pellets is an oft quoted drawback - or is it? I think the pellets offered in .20 are plenty varied enough and it is a benefit not to have to trawl through 20 different types to find the one or two your rifle shoots the best. Especially if you then start to take head size variations into account. JSB Exact H&N FTT Bisley Pest Control HW FT (JSBs rebranded) Crossman Premier Webleypell .20 (same as Crossman Magnum with a yellow label) How many more do you need? There are others, but to be honest why bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jantar Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 .20 has a flatter trajectory than a .22 but not as flat as the .177. Best way to describe the .20 is that it hits harder than a .177 without the massive trajectory curve of a .22. My next will also be a .20. Their only drawback is that at present the selection of different .20 pellets are not great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 Most .20 pellets weigh the same as .22 pellets .so the trajectory is the same as the .22 pointless . If there were more .20 s weighing around 11 -12 grns then there would be a better case for the cal. Imo Thing is the difference between .177 and .22 isnt that big in real terms and even less between a heavy .177 and a light .22 So to split that small difference with a .20 cal pellet is rather a waste of time As most people agree or find out for themselves . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 I think the largest problem is that the 20 suffers from lack of investment. Currently Uttings have 5 pellets, all round heads, Weihrauch, h&n ftt, job exact and daystate sovereign (exact rebrand?) and daystate kaiser (ftt rebrand?). Both 177 and 22 have 110 and 79 designs designs of all different shapes, weights and sizes. Ballistically the 20 sits between 177 and 22 but whilst there is a significant difference between those 2, the 20 sitting in the middle can be covered by a light 22 pellet or a heavy 177 pellet and therefore has no distinct clear advantage. Similar to the 20b, 12b with the 16b sitting in-between. For those of the K.I.S.S. persuasion, the 20 can be a perfectly adequate solution but it does not have the flexibility of pellet options that the other two have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 Lovely summing up .👏 I think if we all had to start again but there could only be 1 pellet cal then i think i might choose a .20 especially if say the energy limit was 16 fpe . Then i think the .20 could make the ideal 1 calibre . But thats not the case so .177 and .22 gives more flexability . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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