Jaymo Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Maybe have a little house move on the cards, will need the technical assistance of an SE due to chimney part removal and a couple of walls. Then of course a plasterer for walls and ceilings ( ceilings anyway due to yucky artex- what were people thinking back then? ) Any suggestions for the south of Norwich area? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 don't know any engineers but how big are the ceilings bud? if they're too big for me I know a good guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted May 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Paddy Galore! said: don't know any engineers but how big are the ceilings bud? if they're too big for me I know a good guy Biggest is only 4.5m x 5.5m, rest are smaller at 3.6m x 3.5m. Just about to send of a sample to see if it contains the dreaded asbestos in the artex (mid 90’s build so maybe/maybe not) as it’s only £40 for peace of mind. Then I can knock the old artex smoother before applying Febond in anticipation of a plaster magician doing their thing. Rooms will be all clear and floors masked up with no skirting for some wall chasing to be covered or bare concrete , would like to do the kids rooms first. Thank you for the reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 how heavy is the artex pattern? I did my kitchen a couple of years back, that was thicker than Dianne abbott, I ended up putting a tight bonding coat on first, I only pva'd the lid and it held well, although if you do want some thistle bondit ive got a tub left over if it'll help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted May 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Pattern varies from room to room, it’s like they let a group of five year olds come up with different patterns- some heavier than others. Best is the living room has a recessed rectangle with will need boarding out to make level then whole area done. PM mr what you would like for the thistle please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 you can have it chap, it's just taking up room in the shed, i'll drop you a line over the weekend once I've found it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 If you now any builders they should now a s e for you .if not look in your local yellow pages or local paper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddoakley Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Nowhere near you so unable to offer any help in that regards but as far as the ceilings/artex goes then it may be advisable to either rip the ceilings down and re-board or over- board. If the pattern is heavy then you don't want to be adding too much plaster over the top of it, a thin bonding coat might help but new boards are better and will be easier to skim. Edd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted May 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, eddoakley said: Nowhere near you so unable to offer any help in that regards but as far as the ceilings/artex goes then it may be advisable to either rip the ceilings down and re-board or over- board. If the pattern is heavy then you don't want to be adding too much plaster over the top of it, a thin bonding coat might help but new boards are better and will be easier to skim. Edd Did think of that, but that’s another inch off the ceiling height- due to wall removal in two rooms then of course we will be re-boarding them. if it comes back non asbestos then I might use a rotary wall/ceiling sander that I’ve seen used loads of times in France, but not here- yet, to smooth it right back of any high areas Edited May 21, 2019 by Jaymo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 We steamed the artex off the kitchen ceiling with a wallpaper steamer came off like damp polyfilla back to the boards been okay for the last 30 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 Save yourself the fee....all artex up to 2000 contains asbestos and a lot after that date until the pre change product was out if the supply chain... as paddy says thistle it and go over or re board..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Jaymo said: that’s another inch off the ceiling height 9.5 mm board and max 3 mm skim - half inch at worst for what amounts to more secure finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 54 minutes ago, millrace said: ...all artex up to 2000 contains asbestos and a lot after that date until the pre change product was out if the supply chain........ Not necessarily true. Our house, built in 1990, was tested for asbestos in the Artex. None found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted May 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Yellow Bear said: 9.5 mm board and max 3 mm skim - half inch at worst for what amounts to more secure finish. More secure than a skim over the old Artex? Dont mind doing all the ceilings but it’s additional time and cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Jaymo said: More secure than a skim over the old Artex? Dont mind doing all the ceilings but it’s additional time and cost. Yes - correctly screwed and taped it should hold better than any bond to "artex" especially if it has been painted at any stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 Had a ceiling water damaged and had to have it re fixed . It had white asbestos in the artex ,what a major problem it was , specialist contractor to remove and dispose of the asbestos . The house was cocooned in air locks inside and we weren’t allowed back in until and inspector had deemed it safe and clear of asbestos,it cost thousands . Thank god for proper household insurance . You need to really check for asbestos .the house was built in the mid 70 s but asbestos was used in artex well into the 80s . Good luck . harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) it was banned 1999 harnser, but a lot of textured coating was assy free by the 90's, doesn't mean to say it's all safe though, I've just done a ceiling in a house built in 2003 that had assy in the artex. I've scraped off old artex using ready mixed wall paper paste and a big floor scraper before, as long as you sheet up the floor and bag it properly all you need to pay for is pick up and dump charges. Edited May 22, 2019 by Paddy Galore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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