Vince Green Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 3 hours ago, dodgy dave said: i wonder how she got a mortgage When a friend of my mum bought their council house years ago the council took care of all that for them. Talk about being handed it on a plate. No deposit to find, no solicitor's bill and they got the house for about half the market value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nic Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 On 17/06/2019 at 10:21, Vince Green said: For many years in London (I can only speak for London) single parenthood was the ONLY way most young working class women could ever get a place of their own They couldn't ever earn enough to rent or buy. So a free council flat, provided for them more or less on demand in those days, and a life on benefits was the route of choice. WORKING CLASS????? single parent not working getting benefits is not working class! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nic Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) part of the issue is the expectation that people have a right to a house/flat of their own. When i wanted to leave home i had choices... rent a flat or buy if rich enough, bedsit, lodgings, join army or old bill and get accommodation or a job with tied housing. now people want a house of their own straight away. imho benefits should be limited to 80% of what you could earn on minimum wages for a standard 40 hour week.... and that includes housing etc. if you choose to become pregnant after starting on benefits then they should not rise due to that kiddy. your choice. i know i am probably thought of as harsh, but i grew up with self employed parents who worked long hours, even when ill could not claim a penny as they were self employed. i chose to pay into a mortgage scheme and not P*** all of it away on holidays etc so now cannot ever claim a penny. i also spent too many years knowing that the job i got sent to with the people, ****** in the street midweek causing hassle in the early hours would not be people with a job to go to! Edited June 21, 2019 by nic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, nic said: part of the issue is the expectation that people have a right to a house/flat of their own. When i wanted to leave home i had choices... rent a flat or buy if rich enough, bedsit, lodgings, join army or old bill and get accommodation or a job with tied housing. now people want a house of their own straight away. imho benefits should be limited to 80% of what you could earn on minimum wages for a standard 40 hour week.... and that includes housing etc. if you choose to become pregnant after starting on benefits then they should not rise due to that kiddy. your choice. i know i am probably thought of as harsh, but i grew up with self employed parents who worked long hours, even when ill could not claim a penny as they were self employed. i chose to pay into a mortgage scheme and not P*** all of it away on holidays etc so now cannot ever claim a penny. i also spent too many years knowing that the job i got sent to with the people, ****** in the street midweek causing hassle in the early hours would not be people with a job to go to! Not harsh at all, many of us who have worked all our lives for what we have, agree with you. Edited June 21, 2019 by TIGHTCHOKE Syntax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, nic said: part of the issue is the expectation that people have a right to a house/flat of their own. When i wanted to leave home i had choices... rent a flat or buy if rich enough, bedsit, lodgings, join army or old bill and get accommodation or a job with tied housing. now people want a house of their own straight away. imho benefits should be limited to 80% of what you could earn on minimum wages for a standard 40 hour week.... and that includes housing etc. if you choose to become pregnant after starting on benefits then they should not rise due to that kiddy. your choice. i know i am probably thought of as harsh, but i grew up with self employed parents who worked long hours, even when ill could not claim a penny as they were self employed. i chose to pay into a mortgage scheme and not P*** all of it away on holidays etc so now cannot ever claim a penny. i also spent too many years knowing that the job i got sent to with the people, ****** in the street midweek causing hassle in the early hours would not be people with a job to go to! Nic, you should probably be in therapy by now for having expectations placed on you for having self responsibility? A lot of this stems from them expecting someone else to be responsible for their actions and futures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 On 16/06/2019 at 10:32, Lloyd90 said: My partner and I both work decent jobs, paid for our house, mortgage, cars. We couldn’t afford to have kids atm, it’s damn expensive. People who don’t work can bang out 6 kids and not need to worry about childcare because they’re paid to sit at home all day not working. It reminds me of the movie idiocracy. Bang on Lloyd,we have a generation of kids having kids! The UK is turning into a holding pen for the Jeremy Kyle show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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