Daz Harrison Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 My daystate is loving these pellets ! pellet on top of pellet, anyone else using them on Rabbits yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 At what ranges ? These pellets really only expand satisfactory with 800 fps on impact . Depending on what it hits obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Harrison Posted October 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 43 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: At what ranges ? These pellets really only expand satisfactory with 800 fps on impact . Depending on what it hits obviously at the moment ive only used out to 25 yrds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 Is that in an fac ? What muzzle speed u getting ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron yeates Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 Tried them in my sub 12 SFS IMP did a 1 hole group at 25m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Harrison Posted October 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 14 hours ago, Ultrastu said: Is that in an fac ? What muzzle speed u getting ? not sure mate 9 hours ago, Arron yeates said: Tried them in my sub 12 SFS IMP did a 1 hole group at 25m same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Daz Harrison said: not sure mate same Your not sure if your gun is an fac ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 probably not sure what Fps the pellet is doing, not everyone has a chrono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron yeates Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 Ill be honest at 25M they were flat from my sub 12 push the distances out not sure what they would be like. All my rifles shoot H&N so using these was just a test but foundd in my SFS Imp .22 very very deadly at 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Harrison Posted October 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Mice! said: probably not sure what Fps the pellet is doing, not everyone has a chrono. Correct, it's a sub 12 (at the moment!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 Lots of mixed reviews on them, some are getting one hole groups others shotgun patterns and find exacts still shoot better. Always worth trying if you find it more accurate the deformation thing don't matter. If it's not as accurate I'd leave them.in the tin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron yeates Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, figgy said: Lots of mixed reviews on them, some are getting one hole groups others shotgun patterns and find exacts still shoot better. Always worth trying if you find it more accurate the deformation thing don't matter. If it's not as accurate I'd leave them.in the tin. Totally agree without accuracy theres appsolutly no point in using them. Shame there only in .22 and not other .cals yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratchers Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, figgy said: Lots of mixed reviews on them, some are getting one hole groups others shotgun patterns and find exacts still shoot better. Always worth trying if you find it more accurate the deformation thing don't matter. If it's not as accurate I'd leave them.in the tin. Mixed reviews? all the ones Iv'e read seem positive with the accuracy. Got to agree if it aint accurate stick to your normal pellet and probably better at fac levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 Yes exactly .these would perform much better in .177 cal .faster speeds and more fragile construction equals more deformation on impact and more imparted energy into the quarry . The h+n hunter extreem work very well in this regard but id like to see an 8.5 grn pellet with a bc of around 0.02 As opposed to the 9.5 grns and 0.17 bc of the hn 1 minute ago, ratchers said: Mixed reviews? all the ones Iv'e read seem positive with the accuracy. Got to agree if it aint accurate stick to your normal pellet and probably better at fac levels. My mate was testing some at 50 yds through his fac fx yesterday . = not that great for group size .probably around 30 mm .compared to normal jsb exact which were tighter . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 There are a few who are not impressed with the accuracy of Hades. Shame they don't seem to offer them in .177. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 I imagine that's the same with any pellet though, if your barrel likes them and your shooting tight groups your laughing, confidence in your gear is half the battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Harrison Posted October 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 As said, confidence is a big part of how you shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Are the Hades pellets in sizes the same as the exacts, 5.51, 5.52.,5.53 or a standard of you get what you get. Not seen the sizes advertised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, figgy said: Are the Hades pellets in sizes the same as the exacts, 5.51, 5.52.,5.53 or a standard of you get what you get. Not seen the sizes advertised. This is the sticker on the back of the tin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron yeates Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Ive only seen these avaliable in 5.50mm they feel little looser than usual 5.52mm i use so i presume they are 5.50 as stated on the tin. 5.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 No wonder some guns don't like them. The fac guns seem to shoot them fine, but the increased air will open the skirt to fit the barrel. Thanks for clearing up the size question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Has nobody tried measuring some? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 https://www.airgunforum.co.uk/community/index.php?threads/new-jsb-pellet-‘hades’-frangible.260164/ New phone, hope the link works, pages of chat about these pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) Thanks mice just had a read and they're findings are are what I've heard some love them others don't. All the tests I've seen they only work at fac speeds. The best for opening out at face power were the Hungarian Skenco ultrashock hollow points. I'll stick to standard diablo pellets in sub12. Edited November 8, 2019 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Skirts are designed to open Sub 12. The diameter 5.51, 5.52 mm etc refers to the head size. If you're brain shooting stuff it matters not if you get the pellet deforms or not. Bench rested, using my S200 .22 JSB Express ( AKA Mosquitoes ) shoot one hole groups at 40y, .177 JSB Exact ( AKA AA Fields) through my HW 100, shoots the same. I use both to 55y. Any furher than that I will get closer. I will not be changing my pellets but it's fun and good practice to try things out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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