dodeer Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 New cartridge company in Lancs. https://www.empirecartridges.com/maintenance Does post at £30/35 £240/1000 for 28g 6 £260/1000 for 30g 5&6 Custom printed loads for 3000 or more Fibre wad only Does bespoke loads Worth a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, dodeer said: New cartridge company in Lancs. https://www.empirecartridges.com/maintenance Does post at £30/35 £240/1000 for 28g 6 £260/1000 for 30g 5&6 Custom printed loads for 3000 or more Fibre wad only Does bespoke loads Worth a look Are you anything to do with them? That website opens to a front page with nothing but a logo... is it broken or something? Also what sets them aside from the tried and tested brands? Do they list their components? I used the cheapest clear pigeon 30g 6's today and dropped some good height pheasant... be good to know whats good about these if they cost more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Are you anything to do with them? That website opens to a front page with nothing but a logo... is it broken or something? Also what sets them aside from the tried and tested brands? Do they list their components? I used the cheapest clear pigeon 30g 6's today and dropped some good height pheasant... be good to know whats good about these if they cost more? No I am not. Don’t know about website. Nothing sets them aside. Didn’t say it was. Just posted about them as may help locals or people looking for something. Good news about your Clear Pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, dodeer said: No I am not. Don’t know about website. Nothing sets them aside. Didn’t say it was. Just posted about them as may help locals or people looking for something. Good news about your Clear Pigeons. My apologies, Thought they were something to do with you and be good to have more info thanks for posting anyways and let's hope they're good on we get some reports soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Lloyd90 said: My apologies, Thought they were something to do with you and be good to have more info thanks for posting anyways and let's hope they're good on we get some reports soon. I ordered some today so will let you know. 99% sure won’t be any different from any other game load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 If you use fb or Instagram there’s more details on there and he’s very responsive to messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Looks like an interesting developement ! 28gr Nickel No6...that`s a load I would like to try a few of... Thanks for the heads up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, matone said: Looks like an interesting developement ! 28gr Nickel No6...that`s a load I would like to try a few of... Thanks for the heads up. Yes they got my interest too. Looks a great cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 There is some photos on Instagram.But I cannot do anymore as I am not on Facebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, wisdom said: There is some photos on Instagram.But I cannot do anymore as I am not on Facebook. Well message him via Instagram then. Very nice guy from my dealings and genuine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delwint Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 I had the first 500 from him, on this occasion he personally delivered them to the door as the courier let him down. Lovely lad and always happy to answer questions. It’s good to support new businesses, when so many are failing around us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Delwint said: I had the first 500 from him, on this occasion he personally delivered them to the door as the courier let him down. Lovely lad and always happy to answer questions. It’s good to support new businesses, when so many are failing around us. Exactly! I always buy local whatever the price normally for everything from meat to cartridges but thought id give this guy a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, Delwint said: I had the first 500 from him, on this occasion he personally delivered them to the door as the courier let him down. Lovely lad and always happy to answer questions. It’s good to support new businesses, when so many are failing around us. What are they like? Also are they 65, 67 or 70mm? I messaged on insta when he put up a post asking what people want in 20b... I said a 25g 7 shot would be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozer Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Looks like he's up for the 25g Lloyd90 https://www.facebook.com/pg/EmpireCartridges/posts/?ref=page_internal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 As I have neither fb nor insta I can't look, curious to know if he'd do an 1 1/8oz of 7's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 48 minutes ago, Farmboy91 said: As I have neither fb nor insta I can't look, curious to know if he'd do an 1 1/8oz of 7's. Doubt it as not a desirable load for many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, dodeer said: Doubt it as not a desirable load for many. There always seems to be positive comments about the old winchester load, with plenty saying they would still use them, I think if they were out there they'd sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, Farmboy91 said: There always seems to be positive comments about the old winchester load, with plenty saying they would still use them, I think if they were out there they'd sell. Get an order together and see if he’d load you some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, dodeer said: Get an order together and see if he’d load you some. Ive not shot a 12 since May and not likely to any time soon, hopefully he'll still be going in a year or twos time lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Farmboy91 said: There always seems to be positive comments about the old winchester load, with plenty saying they would still use them, I think if they were out there they'd sell. Not many would as most clay grounds have a 1oz limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 50 minutes ago, matone said: Not many would as most clay grounds have a 1oz limit. Yeah I know, I was thinking for live game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Farmboy91 said: As I have neither fb nor insta I can't look, curious to know if he'd do an 1 1/8oz of 7's. Is that 30g of 7 shot? I am also surprised that they are not about. 1 hour ago, matone said: Not many would as most clay grounds have a 1oz limit. 7 shot is fine for game shooting, many say it is the pattern that kills the birds, having several pellets hit the birds, rather than one or two bigger pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Is that 30g of 7 shot? I am also surprised that they are not about. 7 shot is fine for game shooting, many say it is the pattern that kills the birds, having several pellets hit the birds, rather than one or two bigger pellets. That's the one problem. The guy has probably done his homework/ research and found hardly anyone uses 7s for anything but particularly game. The other problem is is that it didn't tell him why not - they're like hens' teeth. If he produces a decent cartridge he could have a niche market with some 28 and 30g 7s. That is of course until the big boys find out and realise their mistake and drive him out of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Lloyd90 said: Is that 30g of 7 shot? I am also surprised that they are not about. 7 shot is fine for game shooting, many say it is the pattern that kills the birds, having several pellets hit the birds, rather than one or two bigger pellets. It's 32g 46 minutes ago, wymberley said: That's the one problem. The guy has probably done his homework/ research and found hardly anyone uses 7s for anything but particularly game. The other problem is is that it didn't tell him why not - they're like hens' teeth. If he produces a decent cartridge he could have a niche market with some 28 and 30g 7s. That is of course until the big boys find out and realise their mistake and drive him out of business. Think that's probably about the size of it. The only place I've seen actual English 7's is on just cartridges and I certainly wouldn't pay them prices. I've got lucky in a few shops that have had old stock before but it doesn't happen very often. If i could get a 32g 7 load I'd use it for all my wing shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 7s are available in Impax, Supreme Game, RC pro game, RC Sipe, Hull Imperial, and various others . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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