mecman Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Having a problem with my 35 plus year old hw35e I get excellent groups with open sights at 30 yards but need scope now as sight not what it used to be ,i have tried two good quality scopes with same results it will put pellet on pellet for 3or4 shots then go haywire,thanks in advance for any replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, mecman said: Having a problem with my 35 plus year old hw35e I get excellent groups with open sights at 30 yards but need scope now as sight not what it used to be ,i have tried two good quality scopes with same results it will put pellet on pellet for 3or4 shots then go haywire,thanks in advance for any replies. hello, what scopes have you tried and type of mounts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecman Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, what scopes have you tried and type of mounts ? Hello,the first one was a hawke varmint 6-24 x 44ao the other one was also a hawke but slightly less magnification but still a good quality scope ,mounts are sports match, I’m fairly sure that there was no movement in either scope or mounts unless it was inside the scopes, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 The problem is likely to be mount creep or movement, all recoiling guns need decent mounts but air guns in particular need careful thought when it comes to making sure the scope stays in one place, if I’m not mistaken it should have a provision for using what’s called an arrestor block although in practice good one piece mounts are just as effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecman Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hamster said: The problem is likely to be mount creep or movement, all recoiling guns need decent mounts but air guns in particular need careful thought when it comes to making sure the scope stays in one place, if I’m not mistaken it should have a provision for using what’s called an arrestor block although in practice good one piece mounts are just as effective. Thanks yes it has got provision for arrestor blocks it does have a bit of a kick to it,giving it a bit of a service at the moment polishing and debburing,any advice on best oil -grease when re-assembling,thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, mecman said: Thanks yes it has got provision for arrestor blocks it does have a bit of a kick to it,giving it a bit of a service at the moment polishing and debburing,any advice on best oil -grease when re-assembling,thanks. I used to spend hours playing with HW35’s, they’re so easy to service but one thing I would advise against is too much polishing inside the cylinder, conventional wisdom seems to be that they need some imperfections inside to perform best. I managed to “tune” mine beautifully to the stage it really was smooth and quiet, the trouble is the power dropped to 9 ft lbs 😝, not that it mattered because with careful stalking I still managed to head shoot plenty of rabbits with it. It’s ages since I opened any springers up but back in the day someone recommended something (I think) called Comma grease which came in a toothpaste type tube, it was surprisingly effective in quietening the spring noise although these days your best bet is simply to order one of many excellent drop in kits which come with everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Moly grease and dont go mad with it. But do whatever hamster says as ive not taken one apart and cant give advice on internals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) Have u looked at the barrel lock up leaver ?. See if its doing its job properly. If the barrel is moving slightly up down side to side then the scope wont be the issue .this will also explain why u can achive good groups with open sights . I had a similar issue with a hw 30 Grouped with opens but not with a scope . It was barrel wobble . Edited December 1, 2019 by Ultrastu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 6 hours ago, Hamster said: The problem is likely to be mount creep or movement, all recoiling guns need decent mounts but air guns in particular need careful thought when it comes to making sure the scope stays in one place, if I’m not mistaken it should have a provision for using what’s called an arrestor block although in practice good one piece mounts are just as effective. hello, scopes are ok just get a decent one piece mount, with arrestor stud, put some tissue in thread hole and screw in but not to tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottletopbill Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just brought a 1970 HW35 22 seller said it may need a new leather washer or spring as i live in Orpington and want to get it looked over. Can you guys recommend some one local or in Kent as i want to keep it original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, bottletopbill said: Just brought a 1970 HW35 22 seller said it may need a new leather washer or spring as i live in Orpington and want to get it looked over. Can you guys recommend some one local or in Kent as i want to keep it original hello, go on the TW Chambers web site and look at the strip down parts guide for the HW 35, spring is MS 058 washer is PW077 but new type, then there are video strip down guides, look for Nick Stanning AKA tinbum tuning.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottletopbill Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 Many thanks will look now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottletopbill Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 Sorry forgot to say I only want a service and check over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, bottletopbill said: Sorry forgot to say I only want a service and check over hello, it is not that hard to strip/clean/ and replace parts, but you could try countryways gun shop in kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottletopbill Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 To oldypigeonpopper Yes would love to do it my self but not sure about putting back the trigger assembly and does it have to be cocked or not . countryways guns are about twenty mins drive and I use them to buy ammo from and always so helpful to customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 hours ago, bottletopbill said: To oldypigeonpopper Yes would love to do it my self but not sure about putting back the trigger assembly and does it have to be cocked or not . countryways guns are about twenty mins drive and I use them to buy ammo from and always so helpful to customers. hello, if you do not feel up to doing a service they do repairs so worth a call when open again, did you check out that video ? Nick Stanning HW35 strip down guide and fit a tune kit, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottletopbill Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 Will check out the strip down now but did look at Nick Stanning he knows is craft so many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, bottletopbill said: Will check out the strip down now but did look at Nick Stanning he knows is craft so many thanks. hello, if you decide to but a tinbum kit there are all the instructions to go with it and a free phone number but you can just buy the standard spring and piston seal from chambers like i mentioned before, if you join the UK AGF forum there maybe someone near you could help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottletopbill Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 Thank you yet again I have not heard of UK AGF before so will look now. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, bottletopbill said: Thank you yet again I have not heard of UK AGF before so will look now. thanks hello, uk air gun forum, lots of good advice and i know quite a few live in Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottletopbill Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 To oldypidgeonpopper Thank you for your advice yet again have now joined UK AGF and ordered a new breech seal and some leather oil so thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, bottletopbill said: To oldypidgeonpopper Thank you for your advice yet again have now joined UK AGF and ordered a new breech seal and some leather oil so thanks hello, ok no problem, let us know how you get on, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 My friend was gifted an early HW35. Between us we gave it a total overhaul but it drove us crazy as, depite several scope and mount changes it would not hold zero. He then sold it to somene who was hell bent on old 35 12 months later I saw the buyer who told me went to a gunsmiths to PX the 35 the 'smith wouldn't take it and claimed the barrel was bent. Perhaps this is the issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 I think Stu might be in the right area - also pretty sure that these run shims twixt the breach block and the action sides - if run dry these will need sorting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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